GAME DAY:Carolina Hurricanes @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - WED. Dec. 29, 2010

Dash wrote:Does LTIR provide cap relief?

CockRoche wrote:

Dash wrote:Does LTIR provide cap relief?

If Spezza goes on LTIR, his salary will still count, but LTIR allows the Sens without penalty to go over the salary cap by the amount of the injured players salary.

Instead of using Spezza's salary, here is a simpler example with a cap of $50 million and a team right on $50 million for salaries. If player A is making $1 million and goes on LTIR the club is allowed to replace player A with player B as long as player B's salary isn't over $1 million. Their payroll could now be $51 million and they won't be penalized. The thing that scares a lot of teams away from using the LTIR option is that when Player A comes back; the team needs to get back under the original $50 million cap which usually results in player movement.

Dash wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

Dash wrote:Does LTIR provide cap relief?

If Spezza goes on LTIR, his salary will still count, but LTIR allows the Sens without penalty to go over the salary cap by the amount of the injured players salary.

Instead of using Spezza's salary, here is a simpler example with a cap of $50 million and a team right on $50 million for salaries. If player A is making $1 million and goes on LTIR the club is allowed to replace player A with player B as long as player B's salary isn't over $1 million. Their payroll could now be $51 million and they won't be penalized. The thing that scares a lot of teams away from using the LTIR option is that when Player A comes back; the team needs to get back under the original $50 million cap which usually results in player movement.

Thanks for the good explanation. I can see that being a problem (getting under the cap) after the player returns. I guess if you know they are done for the year and you sign a FA to a 1-yr deal you are ok.

Dash wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

Dash wrote:Does LTIR provide cap relief?

If Spezza goes on LTIR, his salary will still count, but LTIR allows the Sens without penalty to go over the salary cap by the amount of the injured players salary.

Instead of using Spezza's salary, here is a simpler example with a cap of $50 million and a team right on $50 million for salaries. If player A is making $1 million and goes on LTIR the club is allowed to replace player A with player B as long as player B's salary isn't over $1 million. Their payroll could now be $51 million and they won't be penalized. The thing that scares a lot of teams away from using the LTIR option is that when Player A comes back; the team needs to get back under the original $50 million cap which usually results in player movement.

Thanks for the good explanation. I can see that being a problem (getting under the cap) after the player returns. I guess if you know they are done for the year and you sign a FA to a 1-yr deal you are ok.

SpezDispenser wrote:The only way LTIR is a good thing is if the player is out for the entire year. Unless you have 2-way players that you're okay with sending down when the injured guy comes back, it could easily cause tension in the room IMO.

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:The only way LTIR is a good thing is if the player is out for the entire year. Unless you have 2-way players that you're okay with sending down when the injured guy comes back, it could easily cause tension in the room IMO.

Or if you're right at the cap and you can't call anyone up unless you use the LTIR cushion.

shabbs wrote:Damn... Boychuk with 2 tonight... Sens down 2-0 in the first.

CockRoche wrote:

shabbs wrote:Damn... Boychuk with 2 tonight... Sens down 2-0 in the first.

Are you watching? It is not pretty right now. Ottawa has a good cycle going, but they aren't getting anything of quality to the net.

Zack Smith is using his body, he looks good with Shannon and Winchester.

Kuba is soft.

hemlock wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

shabbs wrote:Damn... Boychuk with 2 tonight... Sens down 2-0 in the first.

Are you watching? It is not pretty right now. Ottawa has a good cycle going, but they aren't getting anything of quality to the net.

Zack Smith is using his body, he looks good with Shannon and Winchester.

Kuba is soft.

Damn, I am at work. From the sounds of it, I don't think I even want to bother to find a feed.

hemlock wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

shabbs wrote:Damn... Boychuk with 2 tonight... Sens down 2-0 in the first.

Are you watching? It is not pretty right now. Ottawa has a good cycle going, but they aren't getting anything of quality to the net.

Zack Smith is using his body, he looks good with Shannon and Winchester.

Kuba is soft.

Damn, I am at work. From the sounds of it, I don't think I even want to bother to find a feed.