GDT: Penguins @ Senators, Dec. 26, 7:30 pm, SNET

Just saw the play Spezza got hurt on. Nothing vicious in my opinion, just a bit of a shove, but I guess he was in a vulnerable position. The hit on Shannon by Cooke was more of a penalty -- almost interference, then the shoulder to the head. And Shannon gets roughing for what -- bleeding on the ice?

Officiating was bad on both sides tonight, but nothing that really impacted the game in a huge way. I thought Foligno's "no-goal" crossed the line, but no way is that worthy of a penalty shot. A scoring chance was not taken away because of the "hook". They also gave a bogus penalty to Sid for a ghost take down of Phillips.

Also, it may be just me but I don't think the Pens had that many shots tonight. Maybe the scorekeeper padding Elliott's stats?

Big Ev wrote:Officiating was bad on both sides tonight, but nothing that really impacted the game in a huge way. I thought Foligno's "no-goal" crossed the line, but no way is that worthy of a penalty shot. A scoring chance was not taken away because of the "hook". They also gave a bogus penalty to Sid for a ghost take down of Phillips.

Also, it may be just me but I don't think the Pens had that many shots tonight. Maybe the scorekeeper padding Elliott's stats?

no....they had a ton of shots. It goes to show you how the senators shat the bed again after the 1st period...been going on for like a year now. Brought back memories of 3-0 comeback by the penguins in game 6, fisher's goal called off.....now 3-0 ottawa, foligno's goal called off.....I'd trade results though anyday

just be happy your boy extended his streak

LOL yeah, I knew he would SOMEHOW get a point. His moustache lives for another day.

Oh yeah, and why do we keep wearing white at home? It's now two times or more that they've done this I believe. It probably through the Pens off a bit hehe.

and please get rid of fighters like Eric Godard. They showed him on HBO and all he was doing at the rink was sparring with a trainer (I think that's the right word lol, when the other guys wears these big mitts and you just punch them).

I'm fine with keeping fighting in hockey but I just don't like the guys who play 3 minutes a night or only get into the lineup just to fight in that game. I've never played competitive hockey, but I don't think it's necessary to have guys like that.

What can I say about the way Elliott played tonight?

I think Letang did the team a favour by the way.

CockRoche wrote:What can I say about the way Elliott played tonight?

He'll start to suck again, right about when Leclaire can play again.

Big Ev wrote:I think Letang did the team a favour by the way.

I get it from the perspective of the team losing more games and getting a better pick. But they're pretty bad anyway. Besides the fact that one of our players got injured, losing Spezza means our games are even more boring to watch, and it'll negatively affect the team's (and Karlsson's) production. And these shoulder injuries can really change a player.

Gah, I'm still pissed. The headline could have been "Karlsson simultaneously shuts down Crosby and records hattrick" and instead it's "Crosby continues streak and continues to not shave."

asq2 wrote:Gah, I'm still pissed. The headline could have been "Karlsson simultaneously shuts down Crosby and records hattrick" and instead it's "Crosby continues streak and continues to not shave."

Karlsson only scored 2 tonight. The first goal went off Fisher.

as for Spezza, if it's a long-term injury (who knows at this point, just speaking hypothetically), then I'm hoping he comes back from injury and tears it up like he did last season. The rest really did him some good...that's what I meant by Letang did us a favour.

That and if Spezza is out long-term, we should be a worse team, meaning a better draft pick, hopefully meaning RNH/Landeskog!

Spezza's is real good on faceoffs, we're going to lose a lot more now.

Hoags wrote:Spezza's is real good on faceoffs, we're going to lose a lot more now.

Spezza has been phenominal on faceoffs this season. If he is out for an extended period of time, it is a big loss.

Hoags wrote:

CockRoche wrote:What can I say about the way Elliott played tonight?

He'll start to suck again, right about when Leclaire can play again.

This is me scratching my head.

CockRoche wrote:

Hoags wrote:

CockRoche wrote:What can I say about the way Elliott played tonight?

He'll start to suck again, right about when Leclaire can play again.

This is me scratching my head.

Leclaire plays well for a while
Leclaire get injured
Elliott steps in and plays well
Leclaire is healthy and plays backup for a few
Elliott begins to suck
Leclaire steps and plays well

Rinse and repeat

I don't know what's more worrisome....spezza's shoulder injury and the games he will miss, or the fact that karlsson is our leading scorer and will have immense pressure to 'carry' the team?

I wonder who gets the call up from bingo....promote regin to top line and call up butler?

Big Ev wrote:

asq2 wrote:Gah, I'm still pissed. The headline could have been "Karlsson simultaneously shuts down Crosby and records hattrick" and instead it's "Crosby continues streak and continues to not shave."

Karlsson only scored 2 tonight. The first goal went off Fisher.

as for Spezza, if it's a long-term injury (who knows at this point, just speaking hypothetically), then I'm hoping he comes back from injury and tears it up like he did last season. The rest really did him some good...that's what I meant by Letang did us a favour.

That and if Spezza is out long-term, we should be a worse team, meaning a better draft pick, hopefully meaning RNH/Landeskog!

I know he only scored 2. But he almost had that empty netter.

Yeah, we need RNH or Landeskog badly. But I think we might have been bad enough with Spezza in the line-up anyway. Now Murray might move assets to bring in a guy to fill the void. Also, I want Karlsson to make the all-star team and that'll rely on his production, in which Spezza plays a large part what with being the only centre with vision and the only centre who can win a face-off.

Michallica wrote:I don't know what's more worrisome....spezza's shoulder injury and the games he will miss, or the fact that karlsson is our leading scorer and will have immense pressure to 'carry' the team?

I wonder who gets the call up from bingo....promote regin to top line and call up butler?

Regin didn't see a lot of ice even after Spezza went down IIRC. I saw a lot of Jesse Winchester, though.