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POLL-What does Regin make this year?

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1POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:43 am

111519

111519
Sophomore
Sophomore

everyone take a guess and we will see shortly who is right.



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2POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:43 am

111519

111519
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1.2 is my vote

3POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:59 am

shabbs

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Yeah, I'm feelin' the $1.2M as well...

4POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:33 am

wprager

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It really depends on the term, doesn't it? One year for $1.2M, or 2 for $3M, or 3 for $5M. I guess I'll take $1.2M.


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5POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:50 am

PTFlea

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I have to go 1.2 as well. But there should be an option for a long term contract.

I might have to add it.

6POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:24 am

rooneypoo

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SpezDispenser wrote:I have to go 1.2 as well. But there should be an option for a long term contract.

I might have to add it.

Yep, let's do this one Filppula style. Regin will be hitting 60+ points -- this season or next -- so let's lock him down at a reasonable price (say, $2.5 for 5 years?) instead of having to pay him $4+ / yr in two years' time.

7POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:53 am

wprager

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rooneypoo wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:I have to go 1.2 as well. But there should be an option for a long term contract.

I might have to add it.

Yep, let's do this one Filppula style. Regin will be hitting 60+ points -- this season or next -- so let's lock him down at a reasonable price (say, $2.5 for 5 years?) instead of having to pay him $4+ / yr in two years' time.

CBA is up in two seasons. Who knows what that will lead to. Fisher never got 50 points, let alone 60, so to get 60 he has to play top-line minutes on a regular basis. The best he can hope for this year is split time between 2nd and 3rd line. Who knows about the season after that, but I just don't think 60 points is all that achievable (in fact, I'm half expecting a sophomore slump as teams recognize him as a threat).


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8POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:02 pm

rooneypoo

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wprager wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:I have to go 1.2 as well. But there should be an option for a long term contract.

I might have to add it.

Yep, let's do this one Filppula style. Regin will be hitting 60+ points -- this season or next -- so let's lock him down at a reasonable price (say, $2.5 for 5 years?) instead of having to pay him $4+ / yr in two years' time.

CBA is up in two seasons. Who knows what that will lead to. Fisher never got 50 points, let alone 60, so to get 60 he has to play top-line minutes on a regular basis. The best he can hope for this year is split time between 2nd and 3rd line. Who knows about the season after that, but I just don't think 60 points is all that achievable (in fact, I'm half expecting a sophomore slump as teams recognize him as a threat).

I don't see any sophomore slump coming for Regin. Most high-end rookies start out strong and fizzle as the season goes on (see: Tavaras, John, for instance). Regin did the opposite: he got stronger as the season went by, made the most of the opportunities he earned, and was one of our best players when it counted the most.

If Ottawa stands pat with its forwards, Regin will remain in the top 6 and has an excellent chance to crack 50 points. Foligno is the only other guy who could slot into that 1 spot open in the top 6 (after Alfie, Spezza, Kovalev, Michalek, and Fisher), and Regin has already surpassed Foligno on the depth chart, and that guy had more opportunities than Regin.

Regin will thrive here, especially as the older guys (Kovalev, Alfie) start to fade, and I think it will happen quicker than you're suggesting. Regin plays both ends of the ice hard, too, which is why he's got the best shot at making that top 6 spot. The people who are thinking that someone like Butler or Wick is going to come in and take that spot away from Regin are, in my opinion, out to lunch.

9POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:21 pm

wprager

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Breaking down his last 30 games of the regular season in 10-game chunks, he had 3 points (a 3-point game followed by 9 o-fers), 2 points and 8 points.

Sure looks like a huge jump. It just happened to start on March 22, the game after Michalek was injured. So he got it by playing with Spezza and Alfredsson. I have no doubt he could produce on the top line, again, at least for a stretch, but I doubt that he'll get that chance.

It's not like he went from 0.5 ppg to .8 ppg; he went from 0 for 9 games! That's concerning to me.


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10POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:36 pm

rooneypoo

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wprager wrote:Breaking down his last 30 games of the regular season in 10-game chunks, he had 3 points (a 3-point game followed by 9 o-fers), 2 points and 8 points.

Sure looks like a huge jump. It just happened to start on March 22, the game after Michalek was injured. So he got it by playing with Spezza and Alfredsson. I have no doubt he could produce on the top line, again, at least for a stretch, but I doubt that he'll get that chance.

It's not like he went from 0.5 ppg to .8 ppg; he went from 0 for 9 games! That's concerning to me.

Who, after Foligno and mystery guys like Wick and Butler, is going to push Regin out of the top 6? Kelly, Neil, Ruutu, Winchester, Smith, or Shannon? How is Regin not the favourite in there, given that he took the ball from Foligno and ran with it -- I remember the moment it happened precisely, in fact: Foligno started off two games with minors, and in fact go two minors in the first 10 minutes, and CC gave the spot to Regin, and neither ever looked back the rest of the season.

As I'm sure you've been told many a time, looking to point production for these things is not always the best indicator. TOI and what situations he played are far more telling. I'm too lazy to do the math on this, but just look at how his TOI increased incrementally over the year:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/gamelog?playerId=3967

Of course injuries played a part, but the fundamental point is, who, barring a trade or a signing, is going to knock him out of that top 6 spot?

11POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:50 pm

wprager

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rooneypoo wrote:
wprager wrote:Breaking down his last 30 games of the regular season in 10-game chunks, he had 3 points (a 3-point game followed by 9 o-fers), 2 points and 8 points.

Sure looks like a huge jump. It just happened to start on March 22, the game after Michalek was injured. So he got it by playing with Spezza and Alfredsson. I have no doubt he could produce on the top line, again, at least for a stretch, but I doubt that he'll get that chance.

It's not like he went from 0.5 ppg to .8 ppg; he went from 0 for 9 games! That's concerning to me.

Who, after Foligno and mystery guys like Wick and Butler, is going to push Regin out of the top 6? Kelly, Neil, Ruutu, Winchester, Smith, or Shannon? How is Regin not the favourite in there, given that he took the ball from Foligno and ran with it -- I remember the moment it happened precisely, in fact: Foligno started off two games with minors, and in fact go two minors in the first 10 minutes, and CC gave the spot to Regin, and neither ever looked back the rest of the season.

As I'm sure you've been told many a time, looking to point production for these things is not always the best indicator. TOI and what situations he played are far more telling. I'm too lazy to do the math on this, but just look at how his TOI increased incrementally over the year:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/gamelog?playerId=3967

Of course injuries played a part, but the fundamental point is, who, barring a trade or a signing, is going to knock him out of that top 6 spot?

No one is going to push him out of the top six, but I see him and Foligno splitting the duties. If Foligno has a rebound year (recall, he was playing some of his best hockey when he broke his leg) then he will get to bulk of that split, plus dibbs on top line injury sub-ins. Can just as easily be Regin, of course.

My point really was that his production went up with Spezza/Alfredsson. He has to break into the top-three -- he's not getting 60 points without top-line minutes. Just ask Fisher.


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12POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:53 pm

jawal

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I'll guess that he will get a 2 year contract with a cap hit of $1.75M. The contract pay $1.4M first year and $2.1M in the second year.

13POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:02 pm

Hockeyhero22000

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now i cannot vouch personnally for this information but according to

http://canucnik.blogspot.com/2010/07/leaked.html

looks like foligno may be getting around 1.6M a year !!!!! POLL-What does Regin make this year? 805406

14POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:05 pm

rooneypoo

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Hockeyhero22000 wrote:now i cannot vouch personnally for this information but according to

http://canucnik.blogspot.com/2010/07/leaked.html

looks like foligno may be getting around 1.6M a year !!!!! POLL-What does Regin make this year? 805406

A little high, if true, but not unexpected.

15POLL-What does Regin make this year? Empty Re: POLL-What does Regin make this year? Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:07 pm

PTFlea

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Hockeyhero22000 wrote:now i cannot vouch personnally for this information but according to

http://canucnik.blogspot.com/2010/07/leaked.html

looks like foligno may be getting around 1.6M a year !!!!! POLL-What does Regin make this year? 805406

A tad high, but I like the term, so it's a good trade-off. In 2 years we'll know precisely where Foligno's at as a player and as a part of this team.

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