POLL-What does Regin make this year?

shabbs wrote:Well, if Foligno gets $1.6M, and Regin gets $1.2 and Campoli gets $1.0M... we're left with just over $1M in cap space without any other roster moves. Not sure if Murray would put himself in that position... we'll see...

wprager wrote:

shabbs wrote:Well, if Foligno gets $1.6M, and Regin gets $1.2 and Campoli gets $1.0M... we're left with just over $1M in cap space without any other roster moves. Not sure if Murray would put himself in that position... we'll see...

If all those are signed then we have to move, what, 2-3 players? Sign-and-trade or move players like Lee/Shannon to make more cap room.

shabbs wrote:Well, if Foligno gets $1.6M, and Regin gets $1.2 and Campoli gets $1.0M... we're left with just over $1M in cap space without any other roster moves. Not sure if Murray would put himself in that position... we'll see...

shabbs wrote:

wprager wrote:

shabbs wrote:Well, if Foligno gets $1.6M, and Regin gets $1.2 and Campoli gets $1.0M... we're left with just over $1M in cap space without any other roster moves. Not sure if Murray would put himself in that position... we'll see...

If all those are signed then we have to move, what, 2-3 players? Sign-and-trade or move players like Lee/Shannon to make more cap room.

Those numbers were based on carrying 13 forwards, 7 d-men and two goalies and included Lee, Shannon. We could move them and bring up some kids (Cowen and Butler/Wick/Locke for example) to get the extra cap room.

SpezDispenser wrote:Too many players. Get rid of Shannon, keep Lee as the depth and call up someone if injuries strike at forward.

We're done for the summer I'd wager.

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Too many players. Get rid of Shannon, keep Lee as the depth and call up someone if injuries strike at forward.

We're done for the summer I'd wager.

We had that luxury before with a Schubert who could flip back and forth... how big of a roster did Murray run with last season? Donovan was in the press box the majority of the time... who else was there?

rooneypoo wrote:

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Too many players. Get rid of Shannon, keep Lee as the depth and call up someone if injuries strike at forward.

We're done for the summer I'd wager.

We had that luxury before with a Schubert who could flip back and forth... how big of a roster did Murray run with last season? Donovan was in the press box the majority of the time... who else was there?

We went with a 22-man roster for most of the season last year, I believe.

shabbs wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Too many players. Get rid of Shannon, keep Lee as the depth and call up someone if injuries strike at forward.

We're done for the summer I'd wager.

We had that luxury before with a Schubert who could flip back and forth... how big of a roster did Murray run with last season? Donovan was in the press box the majority of the time... who else was there?

We went with a 22-man roster for most of the season last year, I believe.

I thought so... and it makes sense. So, cap space calculations should be based around a 22-man roster.

SpezDispenser wrote:Too many players. Get rid of Shannon, keep Lee as the depth and call up someone if injuries strike at forward.

We're done for the summer I'd wager.

TheAvatar wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Too many players. Get rid of Shannon, keep Lee as the depth and call up someone if injuries strike at forward.

We're done for the summer I'd wager.

Nan, we're still looking for that elusive Top 6 player

rooneypoo wrote:
Yeah, I'd say. Either that, or 20, with 2 clear-cut first call ups who play 30+ games because of injuries.

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
Yeah, I'd say. Either that, or 20, with 2 clear-cut first call ups who play 30+ games because of injuries.

I'd do a 21 to have a spare. We're good cap wise anyway and that can be considered part of the injury $$. Shannon's a decent 13th forward, Lee's a nice 7th D-man, but shed their salaries and call up Butler, Wick, Z.Smith, Gryba, Wiercioch, D.Smith instead and you have a very competitive situation for any injury roster spots.

wprager wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

wprager wrote:Breaking down his last 30 games of the regular season in 10-game chunks, he had 3 points (a 3-point game followed by 9 o-fers), 2 points and 8 points.

Sure looks like a huge jump. It just happened to start on March 22, the game after Michalek was injured. So he got it by playing with Spezza and Alfredsson. I have no doubt he could produce on the top line, again, at least for a stretch, but I doubt that he'll get that chance.

It's not like he went from 0.5 ppg to .8 ppg; he went from 0 for 9 games! That's concerning to me.

Who, after Foligno and mystery guys like Wick and Butler, is going to push Regin out of the top 6? Kelly, Neil, Ruutu, Winchester, Smith, or Shannon? How is Regin not the favourite in there, given that he took the ball from Foligno and ran with it -- I remember the moment it happened precisely, in fact: Foligno started off two games with minors, and in fact go two minors in the first 10 minutes, and CC gave the spot to Regin, and neither ever looked back the rest of the season.

As I'm sure you've been told many a time, looking to point production for these things is not always the best indicator. TOI and what situations he played are far more telling. I'm too lazy to do the math on this, but just look at how his TOI increased incrementally over the year:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/gamelog?playerId=3967

Of course injuries played a part, but the fundamental point is, who, barring a trade or a signing, is going to knock him out of that top 6 spot?

No one is going to push him out of the top six, but I see him and Foligno splitting the duties. If Foligno has a rebound year (recall, he was playing some of his best hockey when he broke his leg) then he will get to bulk of that split, plus dibbs on top line injury sub-ins. Can just as easily be Regin, of course.

My point really was that his production went up with Spezza/Alfredsson. He has to break into the top-three -- he's not getting 60 points without top-line minutes. Just ask Fisher.