2010 NHL Draft

asq2 wrote:

N4L wrote:What would you seriously like Murray to do? Take a way lesser player just because it's a need?

This. I would have been really happy with Tarasenko but if they weren't confident in him, this is the right move.

Kovalfie wrote:

N4L wrote:What would you seriously like Murray to do? Take a way lesser player just because it's a need?

grow a pair and make a move of significance

Taking on Cheechoo was a terrible idea; his production has gone down every year for the last four years. I know he wanted Michalek but sorry he got fleeced.

Signing Kovalev was equally as dumb. He signed him a day after Cammalleri. Sorry, but he knew as much about Heatley on July 1st as he did July 2nd.

Since he's taken over it seems like UFAs don't want to come here and our stars want to leave

Devo wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:only thing that can save this off-season for me right now is Versteeg. May as well kiss Z Michalek goodbye too. No point investing in a d-man for x amount of years with Wiercioch, Cowen, Karlsson, and this guy being NHL ready in max 2 years. Not to mention we still have Lee on the roster.

I've lost complete confidence in Murray. It's official.

That's nonsense.

Maybe I'm just sick of missed opportunities. He blew it with Heatley, and he's going to blow it with Spezza. he blew it by not signing Cammalleri and taking Kovalev instead. Cammalleri tore up the playoff this year. He blew it with Campbell who now has a Stanley Cup. He won't do anything of significance this off-season; he won't sign a d-man now (he'd be dumb to anyway) and he's not going to get Spezza a winger.

Sorry dude but his patch-jobs just aren't working for me. Until he does something big to address the needs of this team I'm not happy.

Please please explain to me how he blew it with those situations. Do you know something no one else does?

How do you know a better offer was out there for Heatley, and save the he should have held onto him talk because everyone knows that wasn't an option. Heatley could not start the year here, it would have been a disaster. You're also assuming that we has a shot at signing Cammalleri, in fact if I remember right we had to wait for Heatley to approve the trade and in that time Cammalleri had already signed (he signed July 1).

What could he have done different?

Big Ev wrote:

asq2 wrote:

N4L wrote:What would you seriously like Murray to do? Take a way lesser player just because it's a need?

This. I would have been really happy with Tarasenko but if they weren't confident in him, this is the right move.

Tarasenko isn't a way lesser player. All of this talk of taking the BPA, and he doesn't.

hemlock wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

N4L wrote:What would you seriously like Murray to do? Take a way lesser player just because it's a need?

grow a pair and make a move of significance

Taking on Cheechoo was a terrible idea; his production has gone down every year for the last four years. I know he wanted Michalek but sorry he got fleeced.

Signing Kovalev was equally as dumb. He signed him a day after Cammalleri. Sorry, but he knew as much about Heatley on July 1st as he did July 2nd.

Since he's taken over it seems like UFAs don't want to come here and our stars want to leave

Taking on Cheechoo wasn't Murrays idea. It was something that needed to be done in order to make the deal work salary wise. It wasn't optional.

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:only thing that can save this off-season for me right now is Versteeg. May as well kiss Z Michalek goodbye too. No point investing in a d-man for x amount of years with Wiercioch, Cowen, Karlsson, and this guy being NHL ready in max 2 years. Not to mention we still have Lee on the roster.

I've lost complete confidence in Murray. It's official.

That's nonsense.

Maybe I'm just sick of missed opportunities. He blew it with Heatley, and he's going to blow it with Spezza. he blew it by not signing Cammalleri and taking Kovalev instead. Cammalleri tore up the playoff this year. He blew it with Campbell who now has a Stanley Cup. He won't do anything of significance this off-season; he won't sign a d-man now (he'd be dumb to anyway) and he's not going to get Spezza a winger.

Sorry dude but his patch-jobs just aren't working for me. Until he does something big to address the needs of this team I'm not happy.

1) Heatley situation was impossible
2) What do you consider blowing it, when talking about the Spezza situation?
3) Cammalleri never wanted to sign here
4) Campbell was the #3 D-man on Chicago and would have been expected to be the #1 here.
5) This off-season is currently the future
6) Cowen, Wiercioch, and Rundblad are each, likely, a year away. No telling what Murray has planned, at this point
7) All he's talked about for 3 seasons is the need for a top-6 forward...I'm pretty sure he'll fo what he can for Spezza...Spezza has to do it for himself, though
8) The majority of the posters on this site (many of whom's opinion I respect immensely) are quite pleased with Murray's work. Why all the hate?
9) ...little perspective, maybe? ...little faith?

Kovalfie wrote:

hemlock wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

N4L wrote:What would you seriously like Murray to do? Take a way lesser player just because it's a need?

grow a pair and make a move of significance

Taking on Cheechoo was a terrible idea; his production has gone down every year for the last four years. I know he wanted Michalek but sorry he got fleeced.

Signing Kovalev was equally as dumb. He signed him a day after Cammalleri. Sorry, but he knew as much about Heatley on July 1st as he did July 2nd.

Since he's taken over it seems like UFAs don't want to come here and our stars want to leave

Taking on Cheechoo wasn't Murrays idea. It was something that needed to be done in order to make the deal work salary wise. It wasn't optional.

I realize that but I'm certain they could have worked around it. Didn't Erhoff go earlier in the summer for nothing?

Kovalfie wrote:

N4L wrote:What would you seriously like Murray to do? Take a way lesser player just because it's a need?

grow a pair and make a move of significance

Taking on Cheechoo was a terrible idea; his production has gone down every year for the last four years. I know he wanted Michalek but sorry he got fleeced.

Signing Kovalev was equally as dumb. He signed him a day after Cammalleri. Sorry, but he knew as much about Heatley on July 1st as he did July 2nd.

Since he's taken over it seems like UFAs don't want to come here and our stars want to leave

Kovalfie wrote:
grow a pair and make a move of significance

Taking on Cheechoo was a terrible idea; his production has gone down every year for the last four years. I know he wanted Michalek but sorry he got fleeced.

Signing Kovalev was equally as dumb. He signed him a day after Cammalleri. Sorry, but he knew as much about Heatley on July 1st as he did July 2nd.

Since he's taken over it seems like UFAs don't want to come here and our stars want to leave

Big Ev wrote:

asq2 wrote:

N4L wrote:What would you seriously like Murray to do? Take a way lesser player just because it's a need?

This. I would have been really happy with Tarasenko but if they weren't confident in him, this is the right move.

Tarasenko isn't a way lesser player. All of this talk of taking the BPA, and he doesn't.

Kovalfie wrote:

N4L wrote:What would you seriously like Murray to do? Take a way lesser player just because it's a need?

grow a pair and make a move of significance

Taking on Cheechoo was a terrible idea; his production has gone down every year for the last four years. I know he wanted Michalek but sorry he got fleeced.

Signing Kovalev was equally as dumb. He signed him a day after Cammalleri. Sorry, but he knew as much about Heatley on July 1st as he did July 2nd.

Since he's taken over it seems like UFAs don't want to come here and our stars want to leave

Kovalfie wrote:
-He should have shopped Heatley quietly and not created a stink about things
-We signed Kovalev July 2nd. Cammelleri was signed July 1st. Doesn't matter. You make room. Even if the Edmonton trade goes through, you have a chance to sign a Cammalleri you sign him

hemlock wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:only thing that can save this off-season for me right now is Versteeg. May as well kiss Z Michalek goodbye too. No point investing in a d-man for x amount of years with Wiercioch, Cowen, Karlsson, and this guy being NHL ready in max 2 years. Not to mention we still have Lee on the roster.

I've lost complete confidence in Murray. It's official.

That's nonsense.

Maybe I'm just sick of missed opportunities. He blew it with Heatley, and he's going to blow it with Spezza. he blew it by not signing Cammalleri and taking Kovalev instead. Cammalleri tore up the playoff this year. He blew it with Campbell who now has a Stanley Cup. He won't do anything of significance this off-season; he won't sign a d-man now (he'd be dumb to anyway) and he's not going to get Spezza a winger.

Sorry dude but his patch-jobs just aren't working for me. Until he does something big to address the needs of this team I'm not happy.

1) Heatley situation was impossible
2) What do you consider blowing it, when talking about the Spezza situation?
3) Cammalleri never wanted to sign here
4) Campbell was the #3 D-man on Chicago and would have been expected to be the #1 here.
5) This off-season is currently the future
6) Cowen, Wiercioch, and Rundblad are each, likely, a year away. No telling what Murray has planned, at this point
7) All he's talked about for 3 seasons is the need for a top-6 forward...I'm pretty sure he'll fo what he can for Spezza...Spezza has to do it for himself, though
8) The majority of the posters on this site (many of whom's opinion I respect immensely) are quite pleased with Murray's work. Why all the hate?
9) ...little perspective, maybe? ...little faith?

How do you know Cammalleri never wanted to sign in Ottawa. Source?

Kovalfie wrote:he's still sitting on Volch. If he thinks Washington is going to sign him than trade his rights for something, a 4th, anything. We had this talk months ago. Why are we able to predict this and not Murray?