2010 NHL Draft

Kovalfie wrote:
-He should have shopped Heatley quietly and not created a stink about things
-We signed Kovalev July 2nd. Cammelleri was signed July 1st. Doesn't matter. You make room. Even if the Edmonton trade goes through, you have a chance to sign a Cammalleri you sign him

hemlock wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:only thing that can save this off-season for me right now is Versteeg. May as well kiss Z Michalek goodbye too. No point investing in a d-man for x amount of years with Wiercioch, Cowen, Karlsson, and this guy being NHL ready in max 2 years. Not to mention we still have Lee on the roster.

I've lost complete confidence in Murray. It's official.

That's nonsense.

Maybe I'm just sick of missed opportunities. He blew it with Heatley, and he's going to blow it with Spezza. he blew it by not signing Cammalleri and taking Kovalev instead. Cammalleri tore up the playoff this year. He blew it with Campbell who now has a Stanley Cup. He won't do anything of significance this off-season; he won't sign a d-man now (he'd be dumb to anyway) and he's not going to get Spezza a winger.

Sorry dude but his patch-jobs just aren't working for me. Until he does something big to address the needs of this team I'm not happy.

1) Heatley situation was impossible
2) What do you consider blowing it, when talking about the Spezza situation?
3) Cammalleri never wanted to sign here
4) Campbell was the #3 D-man on Chicago and would have been expected to be the #1 here.
5) This off-season is currently the future
6) Cowen, Wiercioch, and Rundblad are each, likely, a year away. No telling what Murray has planned, at this point
7) All he's talked about for 3 seasons is the need for a top-6 forward...I'm pretty sure he'll fo what he can for Spezza...Spezza has to do it for himself, though
8) The majority of the posters on this site (many of whom's opinion I respect immensely) are quite pleased with Murray's work. Why all the hate?
9) ...little perspective, maybe? ...little faith?

How do you know Cammalleri never wanted to sign in Ottawa. Source?

Kovalfie wrote:he's still sitting on Volch. If he thinks Washington is going to sign him than trade his rights for something, a 4th, anything. We had this talk months ago. Why are we able to predict this and not Murray?

Devo wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:
grow a pair and make a move of significance

Taking on Cheechoo was a terrible idea; his production has gone down every year for the last four years. I know he wanted Michalek but sorry he got fleeced.

Signing Kovalev was equally as dumb. He signed him a day after Cammalleri. Sorry, but he knew as much about Heatley on July 1st as he did July 2nd.

Since he's taken over it seems like UFAs don't want to come here and our stars want to leave

Wrong he signed him on July 6, that was 5 days after Heatley refused to go to Edmonton, and if he would have gone maybe just maybe you'd be right.

Get your facts straight please.

Kovalfie wrote:he's still sitting on Volch. If he thinks Washington is going to sign him than trade his rights for something, a 4th, anything. We had this talk months ago. Why are we able to predict this and not Murray?

Devo wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:
-He should have shopped Heatley quietly and not created a stink about things
-We signed Kovalev July 2nd. Cammelleri was signed July 1st. Doesn't matter. You make room. Even if the Edmonton trade goes through, you have a chance to sign a Cammalleri you sign him

Again you're wrong...

I can't prove it other than my word, which you all know what that means, but it wasn't murray that let the cat out of the bag.

Heatley's agent (well one of them, the idiot) went and shot his mouth off and caused it to get out. Not Murray.

Gohan wrote:

hemlock wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:only thing that can save this off-season for me right now is Versteeg. May as well kiss Z Michalek goodbye too. No point investing in a d-man for x amount of years with Wiercioch, Cowen, Karlsson, and this guy being NHL ready in max 2 years. Not to mention we still have Lee on the roster.

I've lost complete confidence in Murray. It's official.

That's nonsense.

Maybe I'm just sick of missed opportunities. He blew it with Heatley, and he's going to blow it with Spezza. he blew it by not signing Cammalleri and taking Kovalev instead. Cammalleri tore up the playoff this year. He blew it with Campbell who now has a Stanley Cup. He won't do anything of significance this off-season; he won't sign a d-man now (he'd be dumb to anyway) and he's not going to get Spezza a winger.

Sorry dude but his patch-jobs just aren't working for me. Until he does something big to address the needs of this team I'm not happy.

1) Heatley situation was impossible
2) What do you consider blowing it, when talking about the Spezza situation?
3) Cammalleri never wanted to sign here
4) Campbell was the #3 D-man on Chicago and would have been expected to be the #1 here.
5) This off-season is currently the future
6) Cowen, Wiercioch, and Rundblad are each, likely, a year away. No telling what Murray has planned, at this point
7) All he's talked about for 3 seasons is the need for a top-6 forward...I'm pretty sure he'll fo what he can for Spezza...Spezza has to do it for himself, though
8) The majority of the posters on this site (many of whom's opinion I respect immensely) are quite pleased with Murray's work. Why all the hate?
9) ...little perspective, maybe? ...little faith?

How do you know Cammalleri never wanted to sign in Ottawa. Source?

The fact that Murray waited until July 1st to sign the guy Cammalleri replaced. That's my source: Logic.

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:he's still sitting on Volch. If he thinks Washington is going to sign him than trade his rights for something, a 4th, anything. We had this talk months ago. Why are we able to predict this and not Murray?

Why would Washington (or any team, for that matter) give up an asset when they know he's going to sign there. I knew he was going to sign there in Diddling January and I have zero interaction with him or his people.

dennycrane wrote:Murray took a look at what was left. Even if Tarasenko was about the same as Rundblad, you're better off with the guy that is one year further along.

Kovalfie wrote:

Devo wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:
-He should have shopped Heatley quietly and not created a stink about things
-We signed Kovalev July 2nd. Cammelleri was signed July 1st. Doesn't matter. You make room. Even if the Edmonton trade goes through, you have a chance to sign a Cammalleri you sign him

Again you're wrong...

I can't prove it other than my word, which you all know what that means, but it wasn't murray that let the cat out of the bag.

Heatley's agent (well one of them, the idiot) went and shot his mouth off and caused it to get out. Not Murray.

Was it Spezza's agents this year too?

marakh wrote:Kovalfie calm down dude you re just disappointed anx letting the nerves get the better of you. I think you want to watch some rundblad videos to ease the pain. He s damn good and I wouldn't be surprised if he were top 10 in ottawas last year list. A list that was made by the same scouts that took karlsson.

Kovalfie wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:he's still sitting on Volch. If he thinks Washington is going to sign him than trade his rights for something, a 4th, anything. We had this talk months ago. Why are we able to predict this and not Murray?

Why would Washington (or any team, for that matter) give up an asset when they know he's going to sign there. I knew he was going to sign there in Diddling January and I have zero interaction with him or his people.

We all did. That's my point. Why was he not pro-active. If he knew he was going to sign in Washington why not trade him at the deadline? Washington would have likely beat MTL with him.

hemlock wrote:

Gohan wrote:

hemlock wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:only thing that can save this off-season for me right now is Versteeg. May as well kiss Z Michalek goodbye too. No point investing in a d-man for x amount of years with Wiercioch, Cowen, Karlsson, and this guy being NHL ready in max 2 years. Not to mention we still have Lee on the roster.

I've lost complete confidence in Murray. It's official.

That's nonsense.

Maybe I'm just sick of missed opportunities. He blew it with Heatley, and he's going to blow it with Spezza. he blew it by not signing Cammalleri and taking Kovalev instead. Cammalleri tore up the playoff this year. He blew it with Campbell who now has a Stanley Cup. He won't do anything of significance this off-season; he won't sign a d-man now (he'd be dumb to anyway) and he's not going to get Spezza a winger.

Sorry dude but his patch-jobs just aren't working for me. Until he does something big to address the needs of this team I'm not happy.

1) Heatley situation was impossible
2) What do you consider blowing it, when talking about the Spezza situation?
3) Cammalleri never wanted to sign here
4) Campbell was the #3 D-man on Chicago and would have been expected to be the #1 here.
5) This off-season is currently the future
6) Cowen, Wiercioch, and Rundblad are each, likely, a year away. No telling what Murray has planned, at this point
7) All he's talked about for 3 seasons is the need for a top-6 forward...I'm pretty sure he'll fo what he can for Spezza...Spezza has to do it for himself, though
8) The majority of the posters on this site (many of whom's opinion I respect immensely) are quite pleased with Murray's work. Why all the hate?
9) ...little perspective, maybe? ...little faith?

How do you know Cammalleri never wanted to sign in Ottawa. Source?

The fact that Murray waited until July 1st to sign the guy Cammalleri replaced. That's my source: Logic.

We aren't talking about what Murray did or didn't do. I asked why Cammalleri didn't want to sign in Ottawa as you say. He could have signed in a few places, with both TO and MTL interested as well, but he chose MTL. Just because he chose MTL, doesn't mean he didn't want to sign in Ottawa necessarily. Perhaps MTL made a better offer, plain and simple.

hemlock wrote:

dennycrane wrote:Murray took a look at what was left. Even if Tarasenko was about the same as Rundblad, you're better off with the guy that is one year further along.

Better with a guy further along sure, but were there no forwards in that mold available? I think more than anything that is what people's issue are (at least mine). The glaring need for a stud forward prospect.

Kovalfie wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:he's still sitting on Volch. If he thinks Washington is going to sign him than trade his rights for something, a 4th, anything. We had this talk months ago. Why are we able to predict this and not Murray?

Why would Washington (or any team, for that matter) give up an asset when they know he's going to sign there. I knew he was going to sign there in Diddling January and I have zero interaction with him or his people.

We all did. That's my point. Why was he not pro-active. If he knew he was going to sign in Washington why not trade him at the deadline? Washington would have likely beat MTL with him.