Ottawa Senators off-season talk

don't care to i am a science guy not an english guy

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:don't care to i am a science guy not an english guy

You still need decent grammar to survive in the world. Same as basic math skills and such.

Punctuation is your friend.

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:don't care to i am a science guy not an english guy

Ok, whatever floats your boat.

stempniaksen wrote:

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:don't care to i am a science guy not an english guy

You still need decent grammar to survive in the world. Same as basic math skills and such.

Punctuation is your friend.

i can but it is not really an essential skill to talk on a hockey board and i usually jot my thoughts down and flick on to other posts topics etc

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:don't care to i am a science guy not an english guy

You still need decent grammar to survive in the world. Same as basic math skills and such.

Punctuation is your friend.

i can but it is not really an essential skill to talk on a hockey board and i usually jot my thoughts down and flick on to other posts topics etc

Not on a hockey board no, but in life.

As long as you use punctuation in 'real life' your set.

stempniaksen wrote:

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:don't care to i am a science guy not an english guy

You still need decent grammar to survive in the world. Same as basic math skills and such.

Punctuation is your friend.

i can but it is not really an essential skill to talk on a hockey board and i usually jot my thoughts down and flick on to other posts topics etc

Not on a hockey board no, but in life.

As long as you use punctuation in 'real life' your set.

true enough but to get back on topic i still dont think ottawa needs luongo. with elliot constantly getting better and lehner soon to be pushing there is no need to acquire a goalie. Especially one of the ilk of luongo, who falls apart in big games

I'm just saying I wouldn't turn it down if the offer came (unless it was for Karlsson or something).

Elliot and Lehener having proven nothing/next to nothing in the NHL yet, so turning down Lou would be a mistake.

stempniaksen wrote:I'm just saying I wouldn't turn it down if the offer came (unless it was for Karlsson or something).

Elliot and Lehener having proven nothing/next to nothing in the NHL yet, so turning down Lou would be a mistake.

true they have proven nothing but elliot has shown the ability to constantly improve and i would expect the trend to continue

Except that he fell apart in his first playoffs (not that I expect that to be a trend, but that surely was a step backwards).

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:don't care to i am a science guy not an english guy

I'm a science guy, doesn't mean I want to suck in every other category lool.
Just for the sake of helping others understand you better, you should at least give an effort.
Don't be the Spezza of the internet

stempniaksen wrote:I'm just saying I wouldn't turn it down if the offer came (unless it was for Karlsson or something).

Elliot and Lehener having proven nothing/next to nothing in the NHL yet, so turning down Lou would be a mistake.

What exactly has Luongo proved? Hell, Leighton has done more then he has now. Elliott and Luongo are about on the same level IMO, I think Luongo is an average goaltender and a playoff pushover. He's over rated by the media in a huge way and he has been pulled more then any goaltender this year. He's soft, he's mentally weak, and he cant handle playoff hockey.

The guy is on a contract until he is over 40 at over 6 mil a year, worst contract in The NHL IMO. Ill take Elliott and his 29 win at 600K every year vs Luongo and his 6 plus mil having done nothing to prove he is worth that money. Elliott is a dream goaltender for a team that is tight against the cap like The Sens.

marakh wrote:

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:don't care to i am a science guy not an english guy

I'm a science guy, doesn't mean I want to suck in every other category lool.
Just for the sake of helping others understand you better, you should at least give an effort.
Don't be the Spezza of the internet

lool right back at you
i just don't care to do it when posting on this board. I am spending all day making sure my I's are dotted and T's are crossed to try and get a job in my field(just recently graduated) and when i am here i just flick through posts adding my two cents so there

N4L wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:I'm just saying I wouldn't turn it down if the offer came (unless it was for Karlsson or something).

Elliot and Lehener having proven nothing/next to nothing in the NHL yet, so turning down Lou would be a mistake.

What exactly has Luongo proved? Hell, Leighton has done more then he has now. Elliott and Luongo are about on the same level IMO, I think Luongo is an average goaltender and a playoff pushover. He's over rated by the media in a huge way and he has been pulled more then any goaltender this year. He's soft, he's mentally weak, and he cant handle playoff hockey.

The guy is on a contract until he is over 40 at over 6 mil a year, worst contract in The NHL IMO. Ill take Elliott and his 29 win at 600K every year vs Luongo and his 6 plus mil having done nothing to prove he is worth that money. Elliott is a dream goaltender for a team that is tight against the cap like The Sens.

Not to mention that Elliot is on to upward slope of improving while luongo is on the down side of his career the only time he was marginally good was in Florida making 40 save a night when there was no pressure and no one care whether he won or lost

N4L wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:I'm just saying I wouldn't turn it down if the offer came (unless it was for Karlsson or something).

Elliot and Lehener having proven nothing/next to nothing in the NHL yet, so turning down Lou would be a mistake.

What exactly has Luongo proved? Hell, Leighton has done more then he has now. Elliott and Luongo are about on the same level IMO, I think Luongo is an average goaltender and a playoff pushover. He's over rated by the media in a huge way and he has been pulled more then any goaltender this year. He's soft, he's mentally weak, and he cant handle playoff hockey.

The guy is on a contract until he is over 40 at over 6 mil a year, worst contract in The NHL IMO. Ill take Elliott and his 29 win at 600K every year vs Luongo and his 6 plus mil having done nothing to prove he is worth that money. Elliott is a dream goaltender for a team that is tight against the cap like The Sens.

His extension is actually 5.3 million fwiw.
And while i agree that you build a solid defence and as long as you have a decent goalie (Osgood-esque) you'll be fine. But turning down Luongo would be silly at this point. He would easily become the bes goaltender the Senators have ever had. Oh and by the way, the dude won a gold medal, i know you hate the Olympics and all but it's a huge feat.

I'm not saying Luongo is the answer to a cup, but he'd get us a heck of a lot closer than Elliott.

Yup. Elliott every day of the weak at this point all things considered. Wouldnt touch Luongo with that contract. Look at the goalies left... look at the goalies who played in almost every series. Elliott, Halak, Rask, Neimi, Boucher, Leighton, Varlamov, Howard, Bryzgalov, all those guys make very little compared to Luongo (awful) Brodeur (brutal) Nabokov (average) Flurry (abortion).

Build from the blueline out with a guy that makes the saves at the key times.

stempniaksen wrote:

N4L wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:I'm just saying I wouldn't turn it down if the offer came (unless it was for Karlsson or something).

Elliot and Lehener having proven nothing/next to nothing in the NHL yet, so turning down Lou would be a mistake.

What exactly has Luongo proved? Hell, Leighton has done more then he has now. Elliott and Luongo are about on the same level IMO, I think Luongo is an average goaltender and a playoff pushover. He's over rated by the media in a huge way and he has been pulled more then any goaltender this year. He's soft, he's mentally weak, and he cant handle playoff hockey.

The guy is on a contract until he is over 40 at over 6 mil a year, worst contract in The NHL IMO. Ill take Elliott and his 29 win at 600K every year vs Luongo and his 6 plus mil having done nothing to prove he is worth that money. Elliott is a dream goaltender for a team that is tight against the cap like The Sens.

His extension is actually 5.3 million fwiw.
And while i agree that you build a solid defence and as long as you have a decent goalie (Osgood-esque) you'll be fine. But turning down Luongo would be silly at this point. He would easily become the bes goaltender the Senators have ever had. Oh and by the way, the dude won a gold medal, i know you hate the Olympics and all but it's a huge feat.

I'm not saying Luongo is the answer to a cup, but he'd get us a heck of a lot closer than Elliott.

Will he be in a year or two? I dont think he will.

As for the Gold Medal, he almost cost Canada that medal twice, once against Slovakia the other against USA in the finals. The best goaltender Canada has is Cam Ward and if he wasnt hurt he would have been the guy in the nets. But you are right, it is a huge feat, if only he had Pronger, Keith, Seabrook, Boyle, Doughtey, and Neidamayer in front of him every night.

Oh my god why did somebody have to bring up Luongo?

I have already voiced my opinion on him before (would love to have him on the Sens and his contract isn't terrible at all).

Ya, Luongo as a 40 year old goaltener at 5.3 mil... AWESOME. Until he actually acomplishes something in The NHL, his contract is brutal IMO. Luongo being on The Sens makes no difference and truth of the matter is Leclaire is actually the more tallented goaltender of the two. If he stays Healthy Leclaire is everything Luongo is with more athletic ability.