GAME 4 - 2010 Stanley Cup GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators (1) @ Pittsburgh Penguins (2), Tuesday Apr. 20, 2010 - 7:00PM EST.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:
Teams lick their lips? You're kidding right? The best hockey The Sens play is without Spezza.

Only lip licking I saw was The Pens waiting for a pass from Spezza at the blueline. You have a pretty warpped view on Spezza and what he brings. Someone else gets those mins and plays a more responsible game and puts up a little less.

Spezza isnt a special player, he's a border line, first line center who wouldnt be missed much, if at all in Ottawa.

Because Spezza's playing like crap and because the Pens are tap dancing on our heads. In the regular season (which is pretty important in respect to even making the playoffs) if you saunter out Mike Fisher or Cullen or Regin as your top line center, teams are laughing at you. You might win some games, but our non-existent offense would be the joke of the league. Which part of Spezza's PPG this year baffles you?

N4L wrote:
Spezza was a part of The Sens getting to 5th, not a huge part. He was a no show the first part of the year, he was injured when they started going on their run, and he didnt do all that much down the stretch either.

This is the 3rd staright year is production went down as well, 3 years after signing the contract too, hmmmm, wiiiiierd.

N4L wrote:
Haha you have to be kidding? You act like that 2nd goal wasnt the dagger, it was man. Anyways, Ill let you be with what ever view it is you have. It's nice knowing I was right about Spezza, he did exactly what I said he would end up doing when it mattered, and he did.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:
Im actually speachless.

Wow, do you have blinders on for Elliott or are you just being argumentative? Crosby had a partial break, he was molested my Volchenkov, he gets a shot away - barely - and Elliott lets it in. I thought it was a poor goal, in fact, I thought aside from the first period, the Sens didn't receive the kind of goaltending needed to beat a superior team.

Nope, after that 2nd goal they didnt, but the game was over at that point.

Why was it over? We scored 4 goals last night? What we needed was a Diddling save.[/quote

Haha you have to be kidding? You act like that 2nd goal wasnt the dagger, it was man. Anyways, Ill let you be with what ever view it is you have. It's nice knowing I was right about Spezza, he did exactly what I said he would end up doing when it mattered, and he did.

Big Ev wrote:Ok, you don't like Spezza, we know that, but you don't have to exaggerate his level of inepntess, you're making it sound like he's done something to you personally. He may not be a good player in you rmind, but he's not an bunghole, he's not a selfish player, and if he didn't want to win he would not have signed an extension with Ottawa and would have earned even more money somewhere else like Atlanta or Toronto even.

"If people in Ottawa don't see what a failure Spezza is"...the guy is 26 years old for crying out loud, he still has a lot of time left to prove himself, but even if he doesn't win a Cup, he is not a failure.

I don't even care at this point if he plays for the Sens, if he isn't the right fit for this team, then so be it...but by the sounds of it, you are prejudiced against Spezza for whatever reason. Right now, he's our #1 centre, and even if he is traded, then what? Who fills that role? We don't have anybody to replace him right now...unless we trade up to draft Seguin.

Hoags wrote:N4L - if one bad giveaway is enough to sink the team and lose the game then I'd blame the team first before the player (Spezza).

We need to be more resilient than that, and we need to be more competitive so that one mistake or bad goal from anyone doesn't sink us.

If it's that easy to take us out of the game then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:
Spezza was a part of The Sens getting to 5th, not a huge part. He was a no show the first part of the year, he was injured when they started going on their run, and he didnt do all that much down the stretch either.

This is the 3rd staright year is production went down as well, 3 years after signing the contract too, hmmmm, wiiiiierd.

What? He had 38 points in 28 games after coming back from injury. What the heck do you want from him?

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:Elliot may be a rookie but he still has to make some big saves at key times. apparently you are the only one who doesnt see that yeah spezza made a bad play but the third goal wasnt his fault neither were the bad goals in game 3. does elliot suck no but he needed to step up in the playoffs and never did

point and case jimmy howard has stepped up giving detroit a chance against pheonix

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:Elliot may be a rookie but he still has to make some big saves at key times. apparently you are the only one who doesnt see that yeah spezza made a bad play but the third goal wasnt his fault neither were the bad goals in game 3. does elliot suck no but he needed to step up in the playoffs and never did

point and case jimmy howard has stepped up giving detroit a chance against pheonix

N4L wrote:Seriously, haha, how mnay saves does he have to make for it to actually be the big save. Elliott got burned last night bu his team and he fell apart like a rookie, which is basically what he is.

Hockeyhero22000 wrote:it is not just elliots fault but to say that he has no blame is just being ignorant of the facts yes spezza had a bad game made a horrible play but most of the team was out to lunch and picking tee times last night elliot needs to play good for more than one period and the team needs to play as a whole

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Seriously, haha, how mnay saves does he have to make for it to actually be the big save. Elliott got burned last night bu his team and he fell apart like a rookie, which is basically what he is.

Seems to me that every goal should have been a "big save" and the "big saves" are simply forgotten.

Anyway, we ALL knew what the TEAM had to do to win and they didn't. Even more frustrating is that they proved that they could have done what they should have all along, only too late.