GAME 3 - 2010 Stanley Cup GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators (1) @ Pittsburgh Penguins (1), Sunday Apr. 18, 2010 - 6:30PM EST

Phoenix30 wrote:
Disagree. They are playing well. After all the SJS have now outshot the avs 28 to 12 in the 2nd. The goaltender for sjs will be the concern, even though he looks to be playing very well tonight

Phoenix30 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

marakh wrote:
That you've given up way too early? Cmon SpezD, you're better than that
Elliott doesn't give that goal early, it's a different game. We score on that domination in their zone, it's a different game (and Malkin doesn't get a breakaway). Better reffing, could have helped etc.

I'm not giving up, but if we try to play like that against them on home ice again, this series is done. No real threat to MAF - and you know that I think he stinks. We need to be throwing everything at him, make him squirm and sweat, but we let him off the hook.

And when Crosby tags Alfie we should be ready with a push back on his next shift. A forearm shiver to the head to make him aware that we still have a pulse.

We can do it, but we need to wake up and play with the grit we've played with a lot of the season - and Alfie and Spezza need to play with some passion. I'm nervous and sad right now though, but I'll reserve judgment for Game 4 - I mean, there's no way Spezza and Alfie can play like this again on home ice? Right? Right?....

Well said, Look at game one they shot from all over and we won. The Sens need to shoot at him at every opportunity and go after those juicy rebounds. Spezza was successful earlier this year when he started shooting more instead of looking at the pretty passes. Speaking of passes there seems to be no happy medium. Either too hard or too soft, no crisp passes. it looked tonight they were trying to force something or give up.

The 4 big concerns I saw.

1 no shooting enough and gotta shoot from every where. Gotta get MAF moving.
2. Cover the points.
3. Hit hit hit
4. better tape to tape passes.

SpezDispenser wrote:Not to fuel a fire here, because I really don't want to, but would people trade Spezza for the 1st overall pick this June?

SpezDispenser wrote:Not to fuel a fire here, because I really don't want to, but would people trade Spezza for the 1st overall pick this June?

SpezDispenser wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
Well said, Look at game one they shot from all over and we won. The Sens need to shoot at him at every opportunity and go after those juicy rebounds. Spezza was successful earlier this year when he started shooting more instead of looking at the pretty passes. Speaking of passes there seems to be no happy medium. Either too hard or too soft, no crisp passes. it looked tonight they were trying to force something or give up.

The 4 big concerns I saw.

1 no shooting enough and gotta shoot from every where. Gotta get MAF moving.
2. Cover the points.
3. Hit hit hit
4. better tape to tape passes.

Exactly, why can fans see that and the team can't? Shoot the puck on MAF, he's the weak spot, why aren't they doing it?

Also, the next time Spezza does one of his idiot blind passes and turns over the puck, he better show a crazy effort to get it back, this is the playoffs, you don't get another chance.

SpezDispenser wrote:Not to fuel a fire here, because I really don't want to, but would people trade Spezza for the 1st overall pick this June?

marakh wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

marakh wrote:
That you've given up way too early? Cmon SpezD, you're better than that
Elliott doesn't give that goal early, it's a different game. We score on that domination in their zone, it's a different game (and Malkin doesn't get a breakaway). Better reffing, could have helped etc.

I'm not giving up, but if we try to play like that against them on home ice again, this series is done. No real threat to MAF - and you know that I think he stinks. We need to be throwing everything at him, make him squirm and sweat, but we let him off the hook.

And when Crosby tags Alfie we should be ready with a push back on his next shift. A forearm shiver to the head to make him aware that we still have a pulse.

We can do it, but we need to wake up and play with the grit we've played with a lot of the season - and Alfie and Spezza need to play with some passion. I'm nervous and sad right now though, but I'll reserve judgment for Game 4 - I mean, there's no way Spezza and Alfie can play like this again on home ice? Right? Right?.... :crossarms:

Well said, Look at game one they shot from all over and we won. The Sens need to shoot at him at every opportunity and go after those juicy rebounds. Spezza was successful earlier this year when he started shooting more instead of looking at the pretty passes. Speaking of passes there seems to be no happy medium. Either too hard or too soft, no crisp passes. it looked tonight they were trying to force something or give up.

The 4 big concerns I saw.

1 no shooting enough and gotta shoot from every where. Gotta get MAF moving.
2. Cover the points.
3. Hit hit hit
4. better tape to tape passes.

You can't compare game one, it was a very open game where everybody could skate wherever they wanted. Pens have transformed this game into a tight style, now Karlsson, Spezza and Campoli are invisible. Have you seen how many blocked shots did the PEns have tonight? That last PP was a perfect indication where the Sens couldn't find an open lane to shoot.
There's nothing to change IMO, the fate relies on Spezza making better decisions.

caissie_1 wrote:Eberle-Seguin-Hall

In 3-5 years could be someting special!

marakh wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
Well said, Look at game one they shot from all over and we won. The Sens need to shoot at him at every opportunity and go after those juicy rebounds. Spezza was successful earlier this year when he started shooting more instead of looking at the pretty passes. Speaking of passes there seems to be no happy medium. Either too hard or too soft, no crisp passes. it looked tonight they were trying to force something or give up.

The 4 big concerns I saw.

1 no shooting enough and gotta shoot from every where. Gotta get MAF moving.
2. Cover the points.
3. Hit hit hit
4. better tape to tape passes.

Exactly, why can fans see that and the team can't? Shoot the puck on MAF, he's the weak spot, why aren't they doing it? :facepalm:

Also, the next time Spezza does one of his idiot blind passes and turns over the puck, he better show a crazy effort to get it back, this is the playoffs, you don't get another chance.

See my post above. I think we're underestimate the Pens here guys, cmon.

marakh wrote:

caissie_1 wrote:Eberle-Seguin-Hall

In 3-5 years could be someting special!

MPS - Gagner - Hemsky on 2nd line...

Phoenix30 wrote:

marakh wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
Well said, Look at game one they shot from all over and we won. The Sens need to shoot at him at every opportunity and go after those juicy rebounds. Spezza was successful earlier this year when he started shooting more instead of looking at the pretty passes. Speaking of passes there seems to be no happy medium. Either too hard or too soft, no crisp passes. it looked tonight they were trying to force something or give up.

The 4 big concerns I saw.

1 no shooting enough and gotta shoot from every where. Gotta get MAF moving.
2. Cover the points.
3. Hit hit hit
4. better tape to tape passes.

Exactly, why can fans see that and the team can't? Shoot the puck on MAF, he's the weak spot, why aren't they doing it?

Also, the next time Spezza does one of his idiot blind passes and turns over the puck, he better show a crazy effort to get it back, this is the playoffs, you don't get another chance.

See my post above. I think we're underestimate the Pens here guys, cmon.

I dont under estimate them. We aren't playing the same way and we need to tighten up and check them hard as well. They have shown they want this more in the past 2 games. As a result they have had better passes when given an opportunity and are still hitting everything. Even our points have been invisible.

marakh wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

marakh wrote:
That you've given up way too early? Cmon SpezD, you're better than that
Elliott doesn't give that goal early, it's a different game. We score on that domination in their zone, it's a different game (and Malkin doesn't get a breakaway). Better reffing, could have helped etc.

I'm not giving up, but if we try to play like that against them on home ice again, this series is done. No real threat to MAF - and you know that I think he stinks. We need to be throwing everything at him, make him squirm and sweat, but we let him off the hook.

And when Crosby tags Alfie we should be ready with a push back on his next shift. A forearm shiver to the head to make him aware that we still have a pulse.

We can do it, but we need to wake up and play with the grit we've played with a lot of the season - and Alfie and Spezza need to play with some passion. I'm nervous and sad right now though, but I'll reserve judgment for Game 4 - I mean, there's no way Spezza and Alfie can play like this again on home ice? Right? Right?....

Well said, Look at game one they shot from all over and we won. The Sens need to shoot at him at every opportunity and go after those juicy rebounds. Spezza was successful earlier this year when he started shooting more instead of looking at the pretty passes. Speaking of passes there seems to be no happy medium. Either too hard or too soft, no crisp passes. it looked tonight they were trying to force something or give up.

The 4 big concerns I saw.

1 no shooting enough and gotta shoot from every where. Gotta get MAF moving.
2. Cover the points.
3. Hit hit hit
4. better tape to tape passes.

You can't compare game one, it was a very open game where everybody could skate wherever they wanted. Pens have transformed this game into a tight style, now Karlsson, Spezza and Campoli are invisible. Have you seen how many blocked shots did the PEns have tonight? That last PP was a perfect indication where the Sens couldn't find an open lane to shoot.
There's nothing to change IMO, the fate relies on Spezza making better decisions.

marakh wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

marakh wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
Well said, Look at game one they shot from all over and we won. The Sens need to shoot at him at every opportunity and go after those juicy rebounds. Spezza was successful earlier this year when he started shooting more instead of looking at the pretty passes. Speaking of passes there seems to be no happy medium. Either too hard or too soft, no crisp passes. it looked tonight they were trying to force something or give up.

The 4 big concerns I saw.

1 no shooting enough and gotta shoot from every where. Gotta get MAF moving.
2. Cover the points.
3. Hit hit hit
4. better tape to tape passes.

Exactly, why can fans see that and the team can't? Shoot the puck on MAF, he's the weak spot, why aren't they doing it? :facepalm:

Also, the next time Spezza does one of his idiot blind passes and turns over the puck, he better show a crazy effort to get it back, this is the playoffs, you don't get another chance.

See my post above. I think we're underestimate the Pens here guys, cmon.

I dont under estimate them. We aren't playing the same way and we need to tighten up and check them hard as well. They have shown they want this more in the past 2 games. As a result they have had better passes when given an opportunity and are still hitting everything. Even our points have been invisible.

I think Bylsma is the N1 reason for that.