Report: Halladay traded to Phillies

SpezDispenser wrote:

Gohan wrote:

Like I said, they're not giving up Lee + a glut of prospects.

1 and done...

I doubt one and done, should be Taylor and probably one or two more from the Phillies, the rest from Seattle.

You think Philly is giving up Lee, Taylor, and more?? No man..Seattle will fill in the rest.

Gohan wrote:
You think Philly is giving up Lee, Taylor, and more?? No man..Seattle will fill in the rest.

I think they'll give up what they have to give up to get Halliday.

which isn't more than Lee and a bluechipp

Gohan wrote:which isn't more than Lee and a bluechipp

Possibly actually, yeah. Lee = 2 prospects from Seattle + prospect from Philly. Probably about right. They have to all be top 60 prospects though, including one that HIGH up like Brown or Taylor.

Sportsnet had 2 scenarios coming Toronto's way.

Scenario #1

JA Happ
Domenic Brown

Scenario #2

Aumont
Taylor
Saunders

I much prefer scenario #2

I tougth Aumont was a lock in either package... Happ is as good as it get's in the pitching departement doh.

I'm not really sold on Happ. He was a number 3 pitcher in the NL which relatively speaking is a litter hitting division. I'm not sure how his stuff would fare against the AL East. If Happ is a part of the package include Aumont -- I'd be all for that if i'm Toronto.

SDH89 wrote:Sportsnet had 2 scenarios coming Toronto's way.

Scenario #1

JA Happ
Domenic Brown

Scenario #2

Aumont
Taylor
Saunders

I much prefer scenario #2

Aumont, Taylor, Saunders any day of the week.

I've heard Drabek is a part of the package. If so, Blue Jays win this trade down the road, easily.

Multiple sources now saying it's Taylor, D'Arnaud and Drabek. Heck of a haul. I wanted that Aumont guy (now I can't remember his name), but Drabek sounds pretty nice.

I can only go on what people are saying, but this sounds like a nice deal.

Taylor:Born 12/19/1985 (23 years old)
OF, PHI Ranked 42

A 6-6, 250lb monster back in high school, Taylor avoided an early draft by committing to Stanford. When he emerged from college, he was gobbled up by the Phillies in the same 5th round selection that netted them Ryan Howard six years earlier, and scouts see similar things in the two sluggers. After ditching his 'Stanford Swing' for a bigger and more wide open hammer, Taylor tore up the minors last year, slashing .361/.441/.554 at A-level Lakeland and .329/.380/.560 after a promotion to high-A Clearwater. Taylor smashed 19 total homers in just under 500 at-bats. He strikes out a bit too much, especially on quality breaking pitches, but the Phillies system has never shied away from big strikeout numbers, so he'll probably be allowed to smash and swish, as long as he produces overall. As an outfielder, he has limited range, though his speed is probably average, or even a bit better than average. His strong throwing arm that suggests right field is his natural position. While his approach at the plate looks crude, he's actually a pretty polished product: he'll face his first real tests in AA in 2009 while shooting for a Phillies job in 2010.

Drabek:Born 12/8/1987 (22 years old) http://www.scoutingbook.com/players/p2154
RHP, PHI Rank 163

Drabek has sky high expectations but needs a year or two of seasoning before being thrown into the fire of the NL East. Still, he will be ready, and when he is he will be a good one.

D'Arnaud: No info on him at scouting book but after going through the top 175 he was not there. the other C prospect for the Jays was around 120 or so.

Phillipe Aumont, wasn't it? Yeah, that's too bad. Would have been nice to get a Canadian, especially one who's 6'7".

I've heard so many names that I'm just going to wait for the official announcement, though. I know absolutely nothing about Drabek but I guess he's pretty highly regarded.

asq2 wrote:Phillipe Aumont, wasn't it? Yeah, that's too bad. Would have been nice to get a Canadian, especially one who's 6'7".

I've heard so many names that I'm just going to wait for the official announcement, though. I know absolutely nothing about Drabek but I guess he's pretty highly regarded.

Yeah, that's the guy. Closer right now, but the potential is there for a starter. Yeah, Drabek sounds good, I know nothing concrete about any baseball prospect - even Jays' ones, so I'll take people's word for it.

SpezDispenser wrote:

asq2 wrote:Phillipe Aumont, wasn't it? Yeah, that's too bad. Would have been nice to get a Canadian, especially one who's 6'7".

I've heard so many names that I'm just going to wait for the official announcement, though. I know absolutely nothing about Drabek but I guess he's pretty highly regarded.

Yeah, that's the guy. Closer right now, but the potential is there for a starter. Yeah, Drabek sounds good, I know nothing concrete about any baseball prospect - even Jays' ones, so I'll take people's word for it.

I can name Travis Snider and Stephen Strasburg. That's pretty much the extent of my knowledge of the minors. The Jays seem to be producing a lot of youngish arms now though (I don't know of how high a calibre), so maybe it makes sense to go after fielders rather than solely trying to find a way to replace Halladay.

What I'm wondering is, how many fans are going to show up next season? Does JP's absence lure fans back to the part in support of a new vision? Or is the loss of Doc just a bigger blow to the attendance sheets?

I don't think their attendance will drop that much, it was awful last season with a $90 million payroll. Even if it drops by 25%, the team's payroll will be just over half of last year's.

If they put out a team that actually looks like it cares, people will support it. It's hard to cheer on a guy like Rios, who never looked involved in the game.

asq2 wrote:
I can name Travis Snider and Stephen Strasburg. That's pretty much the extent of my knowledge of the minors. The Jays seem to be producing a lot of youngish arms now though (I don't know of how high a calibre), so maybe it makes sense to go after fielders rather than solely trying to find a way to replace Halladay.

That's basically the extent of my knowledge as well. I know there's a couple of catching prospects - one in particular who is coming along.

dennycrane wrote:I don't think their attendance will drop that much, it was awful last season with a $90 million payroll. Even if it drops by 25%, the team's payroll will be just over half of last year's.

If they put out a team that actually looks like it cares, people will support it. It's hard to cheer on a guy like Rios, who never looked involved in the game.

Remember all those (very founded) rumours of a Rios for Lincecum deal? Oh man...

The sad thing about putting out a $45 million payroll is that Vernon Wells' salary would make up 40% of it.

SpezDispenser wrote:

asq2 wrote:
I can name Travis Snider and Stephen Strasburg. That's pretty much the extent of my knowledge of the minors. The Jays seem to be producing a lot of youngish arms now though (I don't know of how high a calibre), so maybe it makes sense to go after fielders rather than solely trying to find a way to replace Halladay.

That's basically the extent of my knowledge as well. I know there's a couple of catching prospects - one in particular who is coming along.

For the Jays? Because I wish Strasburg was a Jays' prospect. Or in general, you know two catchers.