TSN Power rankings - Sens get no love in the latest installment

up to 11th

garblar wrote:up to 11th

This should solidify us as a true contender.

A challenged chimp could make better rankings than TSN. Explain New Jersey who won exactly one game last week, against...wait for it...the Leafs. But they stay in the top 10. Meanwhile the Sens won 3 more games and move up only two spots. I don't get it...what do those rankings measure exactly...what's this magic formula that chimp came up with that sucks so ridiculously.

I never thought CBS could ever have better analysis of the NHL than a network like TSN, but here you go folks, rankings that make sense"

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/powerrankings

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

wprager wrote:Oh, geez, I just looked. It's TSN. And there's no excuse since they updated to the 25th. So the Sens win 6 straight and they move up 4 spots. Philly and Habs are both ahead of them. Unbelievable. It's not Toronto Sports Netowrk anymore, it's simply Anyone-but-the-Sens-Sports-Network.

Clutch, can we add a banned word: TSN = ABTSSN?

That's a little harsh. There were years, when we were first in our Division on a regular basis, that we'd sit in first in those rankings for most of the season.

Still think it's harsh after this week's rankings?

wprager wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

wprager wrote:Oh, geez, I just looked. It's TSN. And there's no excuse since they updated to the 25th. So the Sens win 6 straight and they move up 4 spots. Philly and Habs are both ahead of them. Unbelievable. It's not Toronto Sports Netowrk anymore, it's simply Anyone-but-the-Sens-Sports-Network.

Clutch, can we add a banned word: TSN = ABTSSN?

That's a little harsh. There were years, when we were first in our Division on a regular basis, that we'd sit in first in those rankings for most of the season.

Still think it's harsh after this week's rankings?

Makes literally zero sense.

I don;t get why are you guys wasting your time with this BS anyway.

How do this week's rankings make zero sense? We're 11th on the list and 11th in league standings. Every team ahead of us (on both) have been ahead of us all season long...We also know that they take a whole slew of variables into account. And we know it's not a week-by-week rating. It's a weekly update of the ratings...

The ratings are confusing sometimes and the blatant bias shown on Toronto networks can be annoying, but I think you guys are being a little sensitive on this one.

The ranking is supposed to be the current strength of the team, not the overall standing. The Caps are the hottest team in the league with 10 wins and scoring a ton of goals. The Sens are right behind them with 9 wins and giving up very few goals. Sure, you don't just look at the last 10 games, so I'm not expecting the Sens to be ranked 2nd.

But consider this.

LA goes 8-2 and move up from 14th to 8th. We go 9-1 and move up from 13th to 11th.

Let me get this straight. We start out ahead of LA (13th to 14th), win one more game than they do in the last 10, beating Chicago, Jersey and NYR in the process, and they end up passing us?

The Caps win 10 straight and stay in 3rd, while Chicago goes 6-4 and stays in 2nd?

Gohan wrote:How do this week's rankings make zero sense? We're 11th on the list and 11th in league standings. Every team ahead of us (on both) have been ahead of us all season long...We also know that they take a whole slew of variables into account. And we know it's not a week-by-week rating. It's a weekly update of the ratings...

The ratings are confusing sometimes and the blatant bias shown on Toronto networks can be annoying, but I think you guys are being a little sensitive on this one.

LA is ahead of us this week but were behind last week.

You're right, it's not week-by-week, but it's more indicative of the current level ofplay than it is of two months ago. If we wanted just the overall standings, then we could just go here:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20092010&type=LEA

wprager wrote:

Gohan wrote:How do this week's rankings make zero sense? We're 11th on the list and 11th in league standings. Every team ahead of us (on both) have been ahead of us all season long...We also know that they take a whole slew of variables into account. And we know it's not a week-by-week rating. It's a weekly update of the ratings...

The ratings are confusing sometimes and the blatant bias shown on Toronto networks can be annoying, but I think you guys are being a little sensitive on this one.

LA is ahead of us this week but were behind last week.

You're right, it's not week-by-week, but it's more indicative of the current level ofplay than it is of two months ago. If we wanted just the overall standings, then we could just go here:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20092010&type=LEA

Let alone New Jersey, who had win overtime win last week against the Leafs and have won just twice in regulation in their last dozen games, yet they are still at the top of the rankings.

wprager's right, if we wanted straight league standings, we'd go to nhl.com

wprager wrote:

Gohan wrote:How do this week's rankings make zero sense? We're 11th on the list and 11th in league standings. Every team ahead of us (on both) have been ahead of us all season long...We also know that they take a whole slew of variables into account. And we know it's not a week-by-week rating. It's a weekly update of the ratings...

The ratings are confusing sometimes and the blatant bias shown on Toronto networks can be annoying, but I think you guys are being a little sensitive on this one.

LA is ahead of us this week but were behind last week.

You're right, it's not week-by-week, but it's more indicative of the current level ofplay than it is of two months ago. If we wanted just the overall standings, then we could just go here:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20092010&type=LEA

haha I see your point and it's valid, but that's where the different variables come into play. Also, I don't think TSN has ever stated explicitly that the ratings are intended to be the current strength of the team, neglecting the rest of the season. Ottawa, for instance, is at even when it comes to goals-for vs. goals-against. That would draw them down...likewise for their poor PP % over the season, regardless of the fact that it's been running at a 25+% clip during this run...

How about some love for MY recent installment of Power rankings which reflects the current state of the team based on performance I'd appreciate tips on how to improve the "formula".

Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about some love for MY recent installment of Power rankings which reflects the current state of the team based on performance I'd appreciate tips on how to improve the "formula".

happy.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:How about some love for MY recent installment of Power rankings which reflects the current state of the team based on performance I'd appreciate tips on how to improve the "formula".

happy.

Not sure how I can incorporate that into the formula.

Still holding down #11

http://tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=548

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=310333

Caps hold on to top spot. Despite losing 3 in a row. Umm, yeah, that makes sense.

That two of Washington's losses came after 60 minutes (one overtime, one shootout) helped prevent a drop, though of greater importance is the return to action of goaltender Semyon Varlamov, who had been out since the first week of December. Varlamov struggled in his first game back, but is Washington's best option between the pipes.

They are just looking at stats. Varlamov is something like 12-2 so therefore his return is of great importance. Forget the fact that he gave up 6 goals in his first game back (or that his conditioning stint included a secondary injury). Did we get a similar "break" when *our* #1 got back from injury?

wprager wrote:http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=310333

Caps hold on to top spot. Despite losing 3 in a row. Umm, yeah, that makes sense.

That two of Washington's losses came after 60 minutes (one overtime, one shootout) helped prevent a drop, though of greater importance is the return to action of goaltender Semyon Varlamov, who had been out since the first week of December. Varlamov struggled in his first game back, but is Washington's best option between the pipes.

They are just looking at stats. Varlamov is something like 12-2 so therefore his return is of great importance. Forget the fact that he gave up 6 goals in his first game back (or that his conditioning stint included a secondary injury). Did we get a similar "break" when *our* #1 got back from injury?

Can we please petition to have this stupid Diddling thread closed...TSN's "power rankings" are Diddling awful and I'd rather not hear about them anymore.