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Schubert on Re-Entry

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91Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:17 pm

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Also, it depends on the kind of year Carkner has and how he developes. If he can turn into a 6th D who PK's, then we'll see what happens with Lee.

92Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:33 pm

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N4L wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:We've come all this way with Picard - I thought he was wildly inconsistent last year and we're here now with a real coach...it would hurt to give him up at this point.

BUT...it's gonna be a challenge to have to see if he can hack it in real games that mean a lot.

Me too. And I like Picard more than Lee, for the record.

But the roster / cap crunch is on at D in OTT, big time, from here on out. I could see as many as two of Picard, Campoli, Lee, and maybe even Kuba gone by July 1, 2010 -- especially if we manage to re-sign Volchenkov. Kuba stays if Volchie leaves, I'd say; if Volchie stays, he might have to go. You need a few steady, reliable vets, after all.

You have to think Cowen is on this team next year, tho'. Hell, he was still getting his legs back and shaking off the rust this camp, and he already looked ready. That leaves you with

Phillips / Volchenkov OR Kuba
Karlsson / Cowen
3 of Campoli, Lee, Picard, Carkner

I think it will look more like this

A Trian/Phillips
Karlsson/Kuba
Lee/Cowen
Carkner

Thats just me but tons can happen over the next year obviously.

6 of one, half dozen of the other...

We're both in agreement that two of our current defenders will be gone, and we're reasonably close in terms of who stays and who goes. I personally think we're going to feel the cap pinch and will be forced to part ways with one or Kuba or Volchenkov -- we have a lot of RFAs to deal with in short order -- and will have to move one of Lee/Picard/Campoli to make room for Cowen. That's just me, tho'. I'd love it if you turned out to be right -- we'd have a better D, overall -- but I'm not sure we'll be able to afford it when the time comes.

I wasn't calling / thinking of pairings, btw, just listing them off.

93Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:36 pm

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having too many d is a good thing especially when a couple of them are RFA's. At least we retain their rights and could get something in return if a RFA contract is offered. Lee and Campoli are going to be working for their next contract so I expect them to go out and play well.

94Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:39 am

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So, I guess we'll find out today if he clears re-entry.

95Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:08 am

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MTL might claim him now, haha.

96Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:10 am

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N4L wrote:MTL might claim him now, haha.
HA HA! Maybe...

I doubt it.

97Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:10 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:We've come all this way with Picard - I thought he was wildly inconsistent last year and we're here now with a real coach...it would hurt to give him up at this point.

BUT...it's gonna be a challenge to have to see if he can hack it in real games that mean a lot.


I am not sure about wildly inconsistent. He played well early on, got injuried and stumbled when he came back and then it started to play well when the team got better. I'd hate to give up on him so soon unless its a very decent return. He was the piece I liked intially from the TB when we didnt get their 1st.

98Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:36 pm

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Being reported that he's off to Atlanta.

99Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:38 pm

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Hobiesens wrote:Being reported that he's off to Atlanta.

Interesting destination. I'm sure he'll be successful.

100Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:41 pm

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Good call Hobie, for sure it's Atlanta.

101Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:41 pm

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http://bluelandblog.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/thrashers-claim-schubert-off-waivers/

102Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:45 pm

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So now what? I'm still mystified at all this... especially with the additional cap hit we'll take... bah.

103Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:58 pm

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shabbs wrote:So now what? I'm still mystified at all this... especially with the additional cap hit we'll take... bah.

You have to think that the Senators don't care about the additional cap hit or they have a deal in the works.

104Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:04 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:So now what? I'm still mystified at all this... especially with the additional cap hit we'll take... bah.

You have to think that the Senators don't care about the additional cap hit or they have a deal in the works.
I can't imagine they don't care about the cap hit... so I will assume a deal is in the works.

Wink

105Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:19 pm

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Pencil in Oct. 10th ladies and germs... Atlanta pays Ottawa a visit.

106Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:55 pm

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=500765

Ok So I posted this and it didnt go through...Hopefully this time. Nothing more than to save some coin I am guessing

107Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:59 pm

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Phoenix30 wrote:http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=500765

Ok So I posted this and it didnt go through...Hopefully this time. Nothing more than to save some coin I am guessing
Meh. I dunno. Something else is brewin' for sure. We save roughly 400K of his salary but we also get a 400K or so cap hit now. When Schubie was in Bingo... he had no cap hit.

108Schubert on Re-Entry - Page 7 Empty Re: Schubert on Re-Entry Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:03 pm

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Phoenix30 wrote:http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=500765

Ok So I posted this and it didnt go through...Hopefully this time. Nothing more than to save some coin I am guessing

I'm thinking that making a move like this to save a few hundred grand, while taking more of a cap hit for yet another player that doesn't play for us would look pretty darn bad.

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