UPDATE: 'challenged' NHLPA boss Kelly fired, per TSN; the search for a successor continues

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Why do you think it has *anything* to do with Chelios? He's busy with the USA Olympic team.

I don't think teaching the young US Olympians how to trash dorms will get in the way of causing Dung with the PA.

SSF, are you dodging the question? Chelios was on the committee that hired Kelly in the first place. Why do you think he'd have anything to do with ousting him? Unless you've read something (I haven't seen anything).

wprager wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Why do you think it has *anything* to do with Chelios? He's busy with the USA Olympic team.

I don't think teaching the young US Olympians how to trash dorms will get in the way of causing Dung with the PA.

SSF, are you dodging the question? Chelios was on the committee that hired Kelly in the first place. Why do you think he'd have anything to do with ousting him? Unless you've read something (I haven't seen anything).

Just a hunch. Where there's smoke, there's a big nose!

Here's something I found:
http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2009/8/30/1008480/could-paul-kellys-days-be-numbered

Many players have cited a "disconnect" between Kelly
and the players and concerns over Kelly's perceived close relationship
with NHL commisioner Gary Bettman and other league executives. Chris Chelios and Shawn Horcoff appear to be in Kelly's corner, but many observers believe that the NHLPA's executive director could be on his way out.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Why do you think it has *anything* to do with Chelios? He's busy with the USA Olympic team.

I don't think teaching the young US Olympians how to trash dorms will get in the way of causing Dung with the PA.

SSF, are you dodging the question? Chelios was on the committee that hired Kelly in the first place. Why do you think he'd have anything to do with ousting him? Unless you've read something (I haven't seen anything).

Just a hunch. Where there's smoke, there's a big nose!

Well, being the owner of a rather prominent nose myself I have to take a slight offense at that. Mostly because it's not really contributing anything in the way of offering an answer to the question originally posed. Sorry to go all DTR on you, but do you have anything relevant to explain why you think Chelios has anything to do with this?

wprager wrote:Well, being the owner of a rather prominent nose myself I have to take a slight offense at that. Mostly because it's not really contributing anything in the way of offering an answer to the question originally posed. Sorry to go all DTR on you, but do you have anything relevant to explain why you think Chelios has anything to do with this?

That's alright. DTR goes DTR on me all the time. :^^^^:

He was a prominent dissident Dung-disturber in the PA and now that his playing days are over I'm sure he sees this as a good way to get the spotlight he craves.

You know what they say: "Big nose, big shoes"... or something like that.

"Going DTR"

Is that like 'going to a go-go'?

Anyway, CSNPhilly's Tim Panaccio isn't too optimistic about what comes next for the NHLPA...here's some snippets from his column today...

http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing_09?NHLPA-Fires-Kelly-as-Exec-Director--a-hr=1&blockID=72244&feedID=704

“Very strange,” said one senior league official of Kelly’s firing.

“I have no idea why,” said a highly-influential member of the NHL’s Board of Governors, who sits on key committees.

"I’m not sure, but I believe there is a faction in the group that wants a hard-liner," said another BOG member. "[Kelly] wasn’t all that close to Bettman and Daly."

Panaccio seems to think a showdown is coming...

A showdown = the fans lose and we'll probably have another freakin' lockout/stoppage/whatever.

davetherave wrote:"Going DTR"

Is that like 'going to a go-go'?

Anyway, CSNPhilly's Tim Panaccio isn't too optimistic about what comes next for the NHLPA...here's some snippets from his column today...

http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing_09?NHLPA-Fires-Kelly-as-Exec-Director--a-hr=1&blockID=72244&feedID=704

“Very strange,” said one senior league official of Kelly’s firing.

“I have no idea why,” said a highly-influential member of the NHL’s Board of Governors, who sits on key committees.

"I’m not sure, but I believe there is a faction in the group that wants a hard-liner," said another BOG member. "[Kelly] wasn’t all that close to Bettman and Daly."

Panaccio seems to think a showdown is coming...

Another snippet:

Many of those “hard liners” under Chris Chelios want a strict, adversarial relationship similar to the one when Bob Goodenow was around. He was ousted in a coup by the players coming out of the lockout in favor of middle-of-the-road Saskin.

davetherave wrote:"Going DTR"

Is that like 'going to a go-go'?

Anyway, CSNPhilly's Tim Panaccio isn't too optimistic about what comes next for the NHLPA...here's some snippets from his column today...

http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing_09?NHLPA-Fires-Kelly-as-Exec-Director--a-hr=1&blockID=72244&feedID=704

“Very strange,” said one senior league official of Kelly’s firing.

“I have no idea why,” said a highly-influential member of the NHL’s Board of Governors, who sits on key committees.

"I’m not sure, but I believe there is a faction in the group that wants a hard-liner," said another BOG member. "[Kelly] wasn’t all that close to Bettman and Daly."

Panaccio seems to think a showdown is coming...

Very weird...whomever was quoted in the TSN article seemed to be implying that Kelly was in fact too close to Bettman and Daly.

Sounds like they want to go back to a more "them against us" type of relationship between the NHL and NHLPA. I have a feeling it boils down to the cap being in place and squeezing out those "middle tier" players... the recent flow of players to the KHL is probably not sitting well with them in general.

Like DTR mentioned earlier, I would not be surprised if they bring in someone who will take a hard line to get the cap removed and have it replaced with a soft cap/luxury tax type of system so that these "middle tier" players are able to find a home.

So how does this reconcile with the other piece I showed, the one that suggested Chelios was supporting Kelly?

wprager wrote:So how does this reconcile with the other piece I showed, the one that suggested Chelios was supporting Kelly?

Ask Tim Pinocchio. The DTRed DTRs the DTRer... cool)

wprager wrote:So how does this reconcile with the other piece I showed, the one that suggested Chelios was supporting Kelly?

Two different stories from two different sources?

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:So how does this reconcile with the other piece I showed, the one that suggested Chelios was supporting Kelly?

Ask Tim Pinocchio. The DTRed DTRs the DTRer... cool)

A whole lotta DTRin goin' on... :^^^^:

As usual, the 'good guys' and the 'bad guys' depend on who's reporting on whom...there are probably a whole bunch of versions of this story about who supports who.

Comrade Prager will have his hands full reconciling these; but we have faith in his persistence.


Bottom line, folks, enjoy this season. There might just be another players' strike in the not too distant future.

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davetherave wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:So how does this reconcile with the other piece I showed, the one that suggested Chelios was supporting Kelly?

Ask Tim Pinocchio. The DTRed DTRs the DTRer... cool)

A whole lotta DTRin goin' on... :^^^^:

As usual, the 'good guys' and the 'bad guys' depend on who's reporting on whom...there are probably a whole bunch of versions of this story about who supports who.

Comrade Prager will have his hands full reconciling these; but we have faith in his persistence.


Bottom line, folks, enjoy this season. There might just be another players' strike in the not too distant future.

Hopefully there is no strike and season lost a lot of the smaller revenue teams cannot afford to lose the fan base. some fans are fickle and a lockout could lose a lot of fans

Ian Penny has been Named Interim Exec Director by the NHLPA

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=289459

Let the interview process begin...