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151Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:41 pm

dennycrane


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Some other perspectives:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Scott-Pattison/Dont-go-west-young-Dan/111/21886
Smid, Penner and Cogliano for malcontent goal scorer, Dany Heatley. A ransom for a player who, let's be frank, has left a negative mark on two franchises.

Smid, Penner and a draft pick, first or second, should get this deal done. Throwing a player busting with talent like Andrew Cogliano into the mix is completely over the top.

Since the draft, a well-placed source of mine has maintained that Oilers GM Steve Tambellini has been working hard to attract a pair of major offensive players. It's no secret Heatley is one of them. That said, if by moving the speedy Cogliano, who seemingly would be united with Spezza in Ottawa, Tambo is clearing up cap space to land another offensive piece to the team's retool, then we'll just have to reserve judgement until the dust settles.

If, however, Heatley agrees to head west thus costing Edmonton Cogliano, Smidder, Penz and a $4M bonus as of midnight, then, on paper, Murray wins this trade and his team has taken a huge step back towards respectabiility.

Stay tuned Oilers faithful!

hockeyleaks.com
Sources tell Hockeyleaks.com that the Oilers are moving in on a deal to acquire Dany Heatley.

*Note: while writing this blog, TSN has also posted the same rumour.

The deal would send Heatley and his large contract to the Oilers for Dustin Penner, Ladislav Smid and Andrew Cogliano.

Great move for the Sens, who badly need this youth injection into their system.

152Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:42 pm

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Hockeyhero22000 wrote:the blog writer for the oilers on HB think that this was too much for the oil to give up he thinks they should have kept cogs adn given a first round pick next year instead

He's allowed to say that, but it's ridiculous. It's like me saying we should have gotten Hemsky, Gagner, Cogliano, MPS and two first round picks for Heatley.

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Hockeyhero22000 wrote:the blog writer for the oilers on HB think that this was too much for the oil to give up he thinks they should have kept cogs adn given a first round pick next year instead

So his proposal is Penner, Smid, and an unknown 1st for a player who has put up over 350 points in the past 4 seasons?

That is the dumbest Diddle thing I've ever heard.

:^: It actually makes me kind of angry to think that anyone could be that Diddle stupid.

154Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:44 pm

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asq2 wrote:
Snuh wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:well that answers some secondary scoring....

hey Neely 4 Life! you passed out too soon! :####: wake up and whine! :^^^^:

Yes. Not enough whining going on over something that hasn't even happened yet.

:^^^^: Apologies, but I'm pretty upset.

I was last this upset at the Lapointe deal/the non-acquisition of Stuart, and I was right that time.

Albeit, less so on the Campoli deal, which I didn't like either.


I love campoli! the man almost had a point per game when he first got to ottawa. he's at about .5 i per game now? which is fracken awesome if you ask me

155Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:44 pm

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asq2 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Penner might rebound if he's paired with Spezza.

Too many ifs. There are too many ifs to this deal.

If Cogliano can become a reliable top-6 player, if Smid can realize any of his potential, if Penner can stop being so useless.

You don't think the Oilers have tried to get something out of Penner? They've tried damn hard, and they've given up.

If Murray looked at this deal and thought Penner was a positive aspect of it, I have thus far over-rated him as a General Manager.

Quite frankly, I'll trust Murray and Clouston over Tambelini and MacT any day of the week.

I think this will work out.

156Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:44 pm

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asq2 wrote:
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jamvan wrote:Frank! Penner had one off-year...in Edmonton of all places. Watch when he scores 30+ goals this season. Mark it down, because it's going to happen.

Despite what you all think WHEN WHiney Heatley waives, we are a better team by far.

He had one good year is more accurate. Playing with Getzlaf and Perry, of all players.

Even when he put up 23 goals in Edmonton, he was trashed by the fans for his passionless, one-dimensional play.

Heatley does that as well, but he puts up 50 goals.

Even this bad season, he had more goals than Cogliano had points.
You mean the way Heatley was thrashed here for his lazy play?

Yes, as I said. But at least in his laziness he produced. Penner doesn't produce on remotely the same level.
Who's not going to produce with Spezza and Alfie? With Getzlaf and Nash? Come on, this is a whole new ball game for WHiney Heatley

157Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:44 pm

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It must be a fair deal - both fanbases are upset Smile

158Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:45 pm

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cas wrote:
asq2 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Penner might rebound if he's paired with Spezza.

Too many ifs. There are too many ifs to this deal.

If Cogliano can become a reliable top-6 player, if Smid can realize any of his potential, if Penner can stop being so useless.

You don't think the Oilers have tried to get something out of Penner? They've tried damn hard, and they've given up.

If Murray looked at this deal and thought Penner was a positive aspect of it, I have thus far over-rated him as a General Manager.

Quite frankly, I'll trust Murray and Clouston over Tambelini and MacT any day of the week.

I think this will work out.
The funnything is, Penner was why this deal didn't go down earlier. Edmonton was reluctant in giving him up.

159Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:46 pm

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jamvan wrote:
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jamvan wrote: Give him a chance. He was also drafted 9th overall you know.

Draft order means less to me than what I see from the player.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you seem like a very pessimistic person. Someone who isn't too happy ever. There's far too many Sens fans out there who all they do is whine and complain. Let's at least see what they do here.

Muray has built our cupboards up pretty quickly and efficiently as of late.

That's not exactly true. I loved the Cowen selection at the draft, loved the Karlsson pick, loved the Stillman/Commodore deal, etc. etc.

I'm just not happy with this deal.

Yes, you can point to our prospect depth being revitalized by Murray, but keep in mind that when he took over the roster, it was fresh off a Stanley Cup finals appearance.

Since then, we've nose-dived, so he'd have damn better filled the cupboards.

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asq2 wrote:
Snuh wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:well that answers some secondary scoring....

hey Neely 4 Life! you passed out too soon! :####: wake up and whine! :^^^^:

Yes. Not enough whining going on over something that hasn't even happened yet.

:^^^^: Apologies, but I'm pretty upset.

I was last this upset at the Lapointe deal/the non-acquisition of Stuart, and I was right that time.

Albeit, less so on the Campoli deal, which I didn't like either.

I didn't like the Lapointe deal and I still don't like the Campoli deal, but I'm going to take a wait and see approach with this one...

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jamvan wrote:
cas wrote:
asq2 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Penner might rebound if he's paired with Spezza.

Too many ifs. There are too many ifs to this deal.

If Cogliano can become a reliable top-6 player, if Smid can realize any of his potential, if Penner can stop being so useless.

You don't think the Oilers have tried to get something out of Penner? They've tried damn hard, and they've given up.

If Murray looked at this deal and thought Penner was a positive aspect of it, I have thus far over-rated him as a General Manager.

Quite frankly, I'll trust Murray and Clouston over Tambelini and MacT any day of the week.

I think this will work out.
The funnything is, Penner was why this deal didn't go down earlier. Edmonton was reluctant in giving him up.


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162Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:49 pm

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Speklund says he has accepted!

163Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:50 pm

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dennycrane wrote:Some other perspectives:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Scott-Pattison/Dont-go-west-young-Dan/111/21886
Smid, Penner and Cogliano for malcontent goal scorer, Dany Heatley. A ransom for a player who, let's be frank, has left a negative mark on two franchises.

Smid, Penner and a draft pick, first or second, should get this deal done. Throwing a player busting with talent like Andrew Cogliano into the mix is completely over the top.
What a Diddle idiot.

The fact that he goes on to use hockeyleaks as a source (I'm assuming that was prior to the TSN reports) just proves how dumb this guy is. From just this one article, he seems like a more subdued Garrioche.

164Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:51 pm

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Sportsnet says the deal is done...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2009/06/30/heatley_oilers/?utm_source=Hockey%20Home%20RSS-Images&utm_medium=feed&utm_content=Sens%20send%20Heatley%20to%20Oilers

165Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:51 pm

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On another note, Wiercoch came in at 6'4" 200 lbs. at development camp today.

166Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:52 pm

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dennycrane wrote:It must be a fair deal - both fanbases are upset Smile

Exactly. There's no better sign. Smile

167Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:52 pm

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there might be a hick-up... this might of gotten lost in TSN-RDS translation but appanrently heatley has refused says RDS

http://www.rds.ca/senateurs/chroniques/277518.html


and the plots thickens...

168Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 11 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:53 pm

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Sportsnet posted it was done an hour ago, TSN still has not confirmed.

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