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226Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:55 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:Thats BS, if no offers are coming in then 1/2 the GM's in the league are not doing their jobs. There are legit offers and offers that kick the tires, the fan 590 knows jack.

Everyone except Murray and probably 1/2 a dozen GM's dont know Dung.

The Fan 590 wants to feed their Blue and White listenerships desire to see the Senators fail.

227Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:56 pm

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Something like that. No one knows and if Heatley is in Ottawa after I get out of the rave on Wed morning, then I will believe he wont be dealt. Until then, I dont see any way he doesnt get dealt today or tomorrow.

228Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:58 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Thats BS, if no offers are coming in then 1/2 the GM's in the league are not doing their jobs. There are legit offers and offers that kick the tires, the fan 590 knows jack.

Everyone except Murray and probably 1/2 a dozen GM's dont know Dung.

The Fan 590 wants to feed their Blue and White listenerships desire to see the Senators fail.

well of course, same with TSN and Kypreos on Sportsnet, there are a lot of pro Leafs commentators out there. one is too many for my liking.

229Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:59 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:Something like that. No one knows and if Heatley is in Ottawa after I get out of the rave on Wed morning, then I will believe he wont be dealt. Until then, I dont see any way he doesnt get dealt today or tomorrow.
True, and if there is a pick involved it wouldn't be announced until tonight.

230Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:02 pm

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shabbs wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Doug MacLean was kind enough to inform Sportsnet viewers that Heatley will be receiving 4 million on top of 8 more million for the upcoming season.

What? Is he stupid? That would mean that Heatley's making $12 mil this coming year, which is not true.

By the CBA, when Heatley signed his deal, neither he nor any other player in the NHL can make more than $10 mil on the year. The maximum payout that can be made to a player was (and is) tied directly to the cap (20%), which was at $50 mil at the time.

On top of that, a quick examination of Heatley's contract refutes it: the pay structure is $10 mil in 2008-09, $8 mil in 2009-10, $8 mil in 2010-11, $8 mil in 2011-12, $6 mil in 2012-13, and $5 mil in 2013-14, for a total of $45 mil over 6 years.

Someone send MacLean a calculator and a connection to "the internets". If Dany Heatley makes $8 mil in 2009-10 (established fact), and he gets paid a $4 mil bonus on July 1st (also established fact), then the rest of the money owed to Heatley on the year must be $4 mil.

In addition, this $4 mil 'bonus' can't be a holdover or continuation from last year, because 1) Heatley's already made his $10 mil last year (the max a player could make in the calender year) and 2) July 1 is the beginning of the new calender year for the NHL, and so all payments made on or after July 1st go towards that year (and not the previous).
I emailed Doug MacLean on this and he emailed me back, admitting he got it wrong.

Here's what he said, from his Blackberry:

"You are right. I'm going to correct that tonite as I agree its confusing. Still a tough deal to make. Thx doug"

He's a good egg.
Here's Doug's reply to my suggestion that the $4M is not as significant as people are suggesting...

"Trust me there is nothing going on . Its a tough deal. Tire kicking by a couple teams but nothing they can consider. "

BAH! This does not bode well....

I'm losing faith...

231Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:03 pm

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Honestly, if LA doesnt do something serious at this draft though, they are just spinning their tires.

Imagine if Ottawa had a chance to bring in Brown, and all we had to give up was the 9th, Foligno, and Wierchoich... after years of being out of the playoffs and right on the verge. I would be pissed. Especially if the team looked like LA's.

If LA doesnt trade for Heatley, I really hope JJ asks for serious cash and that team just bombs next year, Frolov leaves, and they have nothing to give anymore that would get a deal done for a pure goal scorer.

Ill actually be bitter if LA doesnt bite on Heatley.

232Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:03 pm

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jamvan wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Something like that. No one knows and if Heatley is in Ottawa after I get out of the rave on Wed morning, then I will believe he wont be dealt. Until then, I dont see any way he doesnt get dealt today or tomorrow.
True, and if there is a pick involved it wouldn't be announced until tonight.

I will be on edge for the # 2 pick, # 5 pick, # 8, # 10, and # 12, I believe those are the picks for any team that may make a move, I know Tampa hasn't been linked to heatley, but if Hedman goes first, they will be doing something. # 5 for the LA pick, # 8 for Dallas I believe, # 10 for Edmonton, and # 12 for Minnesota.

233Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:03 pm

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jamvan wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Something like that. No one knows and if Heatley is in Ottawa after I get out of the rave on Wed morning, then I will believe he wont be dealt. Until then, I dont see any way he doesnt get dealt today or tomorrow.
True, and if there is a pick involved it wouldn't be announced until tonight.

Dawg seems to think if a deal is done and it involves a pick you won't hear about it until tonight. He believes this hysteria being created around all the players (Heatley, Kaberle, Lecavilier)is something the NHL loves right now and they may just be keeping any deals under wraps so Gary can announce them to the world live on tv tonight.

234Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:04 pm

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I thought it was common knowledge that haggling involves the seller asking for too much and the buyer offering too little.
When it comes to Murray in all of this, just think of Russell Peters talking about trying to bargain with Chinese people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_Fc-OT1Pg

:___:

235Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:05 pm

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Dawg's Wife wrote:
jamvan wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Something like that. No one knows and if Heatley is in Ottawa after I get out of the rave on Wed morning, then I will believe he wont be dealt. Until then, I dont see any way he doesnt get dealt today or tomorrow.
True, and if there is a pick involved it wouldn't be announced until tonight.

Dawg seems to think if a deal is done and it involves a pick you won't hear about it until tonight. He believes this hysteria being created around all the players (Heatley, Kaberle, Lecavilier)is something the NHL loves right now and they may just be keeping any deals under wraps so Gary can announce them to the world live on tv tonight.

I fu cking hope so.

236Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:06 pm

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Dawg's Wife wrote:
jamvan wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Something like that. No one knows and if Heatley is in Ottawa after I get out of the rave on Wed morning, then I will believe he wont be dealt. Until then, I dont see any way he doesnt get dealt today or tomorrow.
True, and if there is a pick involved it wouldn't be announced until tonight.

Dawg seems to think if a deal is done and it involves a pick you won't hear about it until tonight. He believes this hysteria being created around all the players (Heatley, Kaberle, Lecavilier)is something the NHL loves right now and they may just be keeping any deals under wraps so Gary can announce them to the world live on tv tonight.

that little rat bastard, we will still hate him even if he does announce the deal for Heatley and its a great one 🇬🇬

237Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:07 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:
Dawg's Wife wrote:
jamvan wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Something like that. No one knows and if Heatley is in Ottawa after I get out of the rave on Wed morning, then I will believe he wont be dealt. Until then, I dont see any way he doesnt get dealt today or tomorrow.
True, and if there is a pick involved it wouldn't be announced until tonight.

Dawg seems to think if a deal is done and it involves a pick you won't hear about it until tonight. He believes this hysteria being created around all the players (Heatley, Kaberle, Lecavilier)is something the NHL loves right now and they may just be keeping any deals under wraps so Gary can announce them to the world live on tv tonight.

I fu cking hope so.
Me too man. Me too.

238Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:08 pm

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SensFan71 wrote:

that little rat bastard, we will still hate him even if he does announce the deal for Heatley and its a great one 🇬🇬

:^^^^:

239Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:15 pm

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the vault consuming the Ottawa Senators brains has been closed until tonight as per Chirp, which Dawg's Wife eluded to before anyway. I don't agree with Glennie or "No-Fly" Kadri as his suggestions for picks, OEL.

I'm being told now that the Senators have gone into a lockdown of sorts. The Heatley talk has carried the day but there are other things they need to prepare for tonight, namely the 9th overall selection. If Kadri isn't there don't be surprised if the Senators select Scott Glennie in the nine hole. Also told that the next couple hours will be critical in the Heatley situation. The time for posturing is running out. If a team wants to acquire Heatley now is the time to get their best deal in. I'll post again if anything comes up.

240Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:16 pm

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From TSN: Cap = 56.8 Million

MIN and LAK after Clowe...

241Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:17 pm

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Sens Chirp knows jack. He probably talks to Boo Boo and just posts the BS that he is given.

I hate blogs that claim to know what is being talked about. Literally, people here probably know more whats going on inside the organizations then those fools.

242Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:18 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:From TSN: Cap = 56.8 Million

MIN and LAK after Clowe...

If Clowe goes to either of those teams it's over for Heatley. Hopefully Clowe is the silver medal and they cant compete with that Heatley deal.

243Dany Heatley quick hits - Page 16 Empty Re: Dany Heatley quick hits Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:20 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:From TSN: Cap = 56.8 Million

MIN and LAK after Clowe...

If Clowe goes to either of those teams it's over for Heatley. Hopefully Clowe is the silver medal and they cant compete with that Heatley deal.

That's my point in posting this info, unfortunately.

PHI and TO are also after Clowe while SJS continues to want to re-sign him.

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