More on LA trade from Senschirp!!!

Neely4Life wrote:If the Sens are looking for a sure thing going forward then you might as well not do anything. Sens are gonna have to start taking some risks and putting together enough prospects at every position to try and really build a team for the future.

Some will turn out, some won. Some will think will wont, some we think have no shot will. Thats the way it goes. Time to start taking some risks in Ottawa other wise its status quo. The team and fans have ALWAYS had a problem with this.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:If the Sens are looking for a sure thing going forward then you might as well not do anything. Sens are gonna have to start taking some risks and putting together enough prospects at every position to try and really build a team for the future.

Some will turn out, some won. Some will think will wont, some we think have no shot will. Thats the way it goes. Time to start taking some risks in Ottawa other wise its status quo. The team and fans have ALWAYS had a problem with this.

I agree. My point was actually that Bernier doesn't add much value to a deal and the surer bet is improving your skaters as opposed to hoping for a goalie to be the saviour.

Neely4Life wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Bernier is nothing special IMO. That being said, the guy is 20 and still trying to find his way in the AHL and professional hockey.

We need a goalie prospect, he is a good guy to try and develope.

When it comes to goalies, let's face it, there aren't many "special" ones out there.

Crapshoots all, even Backstrom. He'll be 32 by next year and will likely still want big money and long-term. Is it worth it with potentially a weak team in front of him?

If the Sens are looking for a sure thing going forward then you might as well not do anything. Sens are gonna have to start taking some risks and putting together enough prospects at every position to try and really build a team for the future.

Some will turn out, some won't. Some we think will wont, some we think have no shot will. Thats the way it goes. Time to start taking some risks in Ottawa other wise its status quo. The team and fans have ALWAYS had a problem with this.

Neely4Life wrote:I agree with that, but you need a prospect playing goal down in Bingo and Glass' time is almost up there. It doesnt look like he is going to turn out, so you need another guy. You can draft a goalie this year as well, something I think they should have done last year for sure, but maybe their guy was Markstum and he got snatched. Either way, you need players at every position right now and Bernier could be a good guy to grab.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I agree with that, but you need a prospect playing goal down in Bingo and Glass' time is almost up there. It doesnt look like he is going to turn out, so you need another guy. You can draft a goalie this year as well, something I think they should have done last year for sure, but maybe their guy was Markstum and he got snatched. Either way, you need players at every position right now and Bernier could be a good guy to grab.

Absolutely Neely, that still leaves Bernier only slightly above throw-in status in my view. Overall it makes a bad deal.

Heck, we'd be better off dealing for Andy McDonald and getting Marek Schwarz, their first pick other pieces to mitigate his UFA status.

Neely4Life wrote:If your getting Tuebert, Moller, Bernier and a 1st, I think thats the best deal you could prob get if you are re-building a team. That could be 2 top 5 picks, a stud D man prospect to go along with prob the best D prospect not in the NHL, Moller who could turn into a 2nd line guy and Bernier a guy who does have some tallent and could develope.

I love that deal on a lot of levels.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I don't hate it but in order for me to like it, I don't think we should have to part with the SJ 1st. Maybe a 2nd? I think we have 2.

504Heater wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I don't hate it but in order for me to like it, I don't think we should have to part with the SJ 1st. Maybe a 2nd? I think we have 2.

Do we have 2 second rounders? That would be super-sick.

BigRig77 wrote:

504Heater wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Alright, so I just looked Bernier up. Thanks but no thanks.

My goodness...I thought he had stunning stats. His stats are rancid.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=80398

Am I missing something here?

Maybe LA's promoted all their top talent and the AHL team sucks now?

Dawg's Wife wrote:
From Goaltending Bernier has interest because of the way he played with team Canada. Other than that he hasn't done what they expected him to.

As far as D, Hickey, Tuebert are not on the AHL team neither are Martinez or Voinov (one is in Russia and the other is in the NCAA).

I still stand by my Spezza or Heatley (please please let it be Heatley) for Quincey or Harold, Tuebert or Hickey, and their 1st

Hell I'll even throw in SJ's first as well.

Jordo wrote:

Dawg's Wife wrote:
From Goaltending Bernier has interest because of the way he played with team Canada. Other than that he hasn't done what they expected him to.

As far as D, Hickey, Tuebert are not on the AHL team neither are Martinez or Voinov (one is in Russia and the other is in the NCAA).

I still stand by my Spezza or Heatley (please please let it be Heatley) for Quincey or Harold, Tuebert or Hickey, and their 1st

Hell I'll even throw in SJ's first as well.

Why Heatley over Spezza DW?

Dawg's Wife wrote:


First LA doesn't have very many quality LW's either currently on their roster or in the system. They need LW's badly.

Second after watching the last 3 games, he's a lazy bastard. That L.A. game solidified it in my mind. I can live with Spezza giving the puck away as long as he forechecks like he did that night (hell he even threw 3 body checks).

Heatley had several drive by's and has looked like he doesn't care.

Heatley...You're Fired!

MurderOnIce wrote:

Dawg's Wife wrote:


First LA doesn't have very many quality LW's either currently on their roster or in the system. They need LW's badly.

Second after watching the last 3 games, he's a lazy bastard. That L.A. game solidified it in my mind. I can live with Spezza giving the puck away as long as he forechecks like he did that night (hell he even threw 3 body checks).

Heatley had several drive by's and has looked like he doesn't care.

Heatley...You're Fired!

Very Donald Trump.

Dawg's Wife wrote:


True but I'm more Newark than Manhattan...

After he waived his NTC and I had him traded I'd kick him in the balls before stuffing him in a box and shipping him to L.A. via Canada Post ground regular mail.

MurderOnIce wrote:

Dawg's Wife wrote:


True but I'm more Newark than Manhattan...

After he waived his NTC and I had him traded I'd kick him in the balls before stuffing him in a box and shipping him to L.A. via Canada Post ground regular mail.

I hope you are not a travel agent.