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spader wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Yeah, OK, I'm on-board for ROR if the price tag isn't too obscene.  You gotta believe the Avs will want a ton back for a 24 year old centre that has put up 120 pts over the past couple seasons.

Lazar and Ceci. Do you do it?

Lazar yes, Lazar and Ceci, no.  And I'd want to sign an extension first, so after July 1st.

Fair enough. I was just trying to gauge people's valuation. I think Ceci could be going back if they make a move for ROR.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Hobiesens wrote:Just an update on the Sens moving to Lebreton Flats.

The Sens and others had until Dec 5th to table their proposal. Since then, the NCC has been dragging their feet with no firm progress on any of the proposals.

The Senators are still on top of this issue even without Melnyk being there.

By the time the NCC approves the idea, all the necessary approvals are done by the city and the new complex is ready, we're looking at about 6 years.

Seems reasonable. Anyway, Cyril Leeder seems to be on top of this. If this all works it will be a prosperous future for the organization.

tim1_2 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Hobiesens wrote:Just an update on the Sens moving to Lebreton Flats.

The Sens and others had until Dec 5th to table their proposal. Since then, the NCC has been dragging their feet with no firm progress on any of the proposals.

The Senators are still on top of this issue even without Melnyk being there.

By the time the NCC approves the idea, all the necessary approvals are done by the city and the new complex is ready, we're looking at about 6 years.

Seems reasonable. Anyway, Cyril Leeder seems to be on top of this. If this all works it will be a prosperous future for the organization.

And I will purchase the vacated CTC to use as my rec room.

Flo The Action wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Hobiesens wrote:Just an update on the Sens moving to Lebreton Flats.

The Sens and others had until Dec 5th to table their proposal. Since then, the NCC has been dragging their feet with no firm progress on any of the proposals.

The Senators are still on top of this issue even without Melnyk being there.

By the time the NCC approves the idea, all the necessary approvals are done by the city and the new complex is ready, we're looking at about 6 years.

Seems reasonable. Anyway, Cyril Leeder seems to be on top of this. If this all works it will be a prosperous future for the organization.

And I will purchase the vacated CTC to use as my rec room.

might cost you a liver! Ooohhhhhh too soon?

spader wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Cowen, Prince, Dallas 2nd for ROR

Lehner for Zadorov straight up

I don't think that deal for ROR gets it done. Cowen may have negative value at this point between his contract and his play of late. 

Lehner for Zadorov could have legs.

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Cowen, Prince, Dallas 2nd for ROR

Lehner for Zadorov straight up

I don't think that deal for ROR gets it done. Cowen may have negative value at this point between his contract and his play of late. 

Lehner for Zadorov could have legs.

No chance for Zadorov.

Also no chance for that package landing ROR.

Think Ceci + 1st or Lazar + 1st, especially if we're allowed to negotiate with ROR.

Lazar plus 1st I'd probably do, but that's a TON.

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Cowen, Prince, Dallas 2nd for ROR

Lehner for Zadorov straight up

I don't think that deal for ROR gets it done. Cowen may have negative value at this point between his contract and his play of late. 

Lehner for Zadorov could have legs.

No chance for Zadorov.

Also no chance for that package landing ROR.

Think Ceci + 1st or Lazar + 1st, especially if we're allowed to negotiate with ROR.

Lazar plus 1st I'd probably do, but that's a TON.

I would do lazar plus next year's first and then add Cowen because let's be honest. Colorado isn't making a move with ROR if no Dman is coming back. If I'm including Cowen then I want something else back also from them.

I know a lot of people think that Cowen has lost a lot of value but I believe there's still a lot of hopes from other GM s acquiring him that he could live up to top 4 material.
Also people might be very surprised how little ROR gets.
Not the same player but you look at the return boychuck got with a year left? 2 2nds.
I would imagine that lazar and a 1st for next year plus Cowen would get us ROR +  back. Maybe a 2nd rounder or 3rd back.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:All depends if Ottawa could negotiate with ROR.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:All depends if Ottawa could negotiate with ROR.

Lots of variables to consider and I think Ottawa has the assets to bring back a nice return or two no matter what.

spader wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:All depends if Ottawa could negotiate with ROR.

Lots of variables to consider and I think Ottawa has the assets to bring back a nice return or two no matter what.

I'll get this one for you, SSF.

LET'S DO IT!!!! 

SeawaySensFan wrote:

spader wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:All depends if Ottawa could negotiate with ROR.

Lots of variables to consider and I think Ottawa has the assets to bring back a nice return or two no matter what.

I'll get this one for you, SSF.

LET'S DO IT!!!! 

You nailed it!!!!

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Cowen, Prince, Dallas 2nd for ROR

Lehner for Zadorov straight up

I don't think that deal for ROR gets it done. Cowen may have negative value at this point between his contract and his play of late. 

Lehner for Zadorov could have legs.

No chance for Zadorov.

Also no chance for that package landing ROR.

Think Ceci + 1st or Lazar + 1st, especially if we're allowed to negotiate with ROR.

Lazar plus 1st I'd probably do, but that's a TON.

I would do lazar plus next year's first and then add Cowen because let's be honest. Colorado isn't making a move with ROR if no Dman is coming back. If I'm including Cowen then I want something else back also from them.

I know a lot of people think that Cowen has lost a lot of value but I believe there's still a lot of hopes from other GM s acquiring him that he could live up to top 4 material.
Also people might be very surprised how little ROR gets.
Not the same player but you look at the return boychuck got with a year left? 2 2nds.
I would imagine that lazar and a 1st for next year plus Cowen would get us ROR +  back. Maybe a 2nd rounder or 3rd back.

I think people need to cool it with the insane payment expectations and the "no chance" declarations. Zadorov is no big deal and Wiercioch or Cowen and Prince would be a healthy offer for that player.

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Cowen, Prince, Dallas 2nd for ROR

Lehner for Zadorov straight up

I don't think that deal for ROR gets it done. Cowen may have negative value at this point between his contract and his play of late. 

Lehner for Zadorov could have legs.

No chance for Zadorov.

Also no chance for that package landing ROR.

Think Ceci + 1st or Lazar + 1st, especially if we're allowed to negotiate with ROR.

Lazar plus 1st I'd probably do, but that's a TON.

I would do lazar plus next year's first and then add Cowen because let's be honest. Colorado isn't making a move with ROR if no Dman is coming back. If I'm including Cowen then I want something else back also from them.

I know a lot of people think that Cowen has lost a lot of value but I believe there's still a lot of hopes from other GM s acquiring him that he could live up to top 4 material.
Also people might be very surprised how little ROR gets.
Not the same player but you look at the return boychuck got with a year left? 2 2nds.
I would imagine that lazar and a 1st for next year plus Cowen would get us ROR +  back. Maybe a 2nd rounder or 3rd back.

I think people need to cool it with the insane payment expectations and the "no chance" declarations. Zadorov is no big deal and Wiercioch or Cowen and Prince would be a healthy offer for that player.

You offer that up for ROR and 28 teams beat it IMO.  Imagine how quick Murray would make that deal?  We all wish.

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

spader wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Cowen, Prince, Dallas 2nd for ROR

Lehner for Zadorov straight up

I don't think that deal for ROR gets it done. Cowen may have negative value at this point between his contract and his play of late. 

Lehner for Zadorov could have legs.

No chance for Zadorov.

Also no chance for that package landing ROR.

Think Ceci + 1st or Lazar + 1st, especially if we're allowed to negotiate with ROR.

Lazar plus 1st I'd probably do, but that's a TON.

I would do lazar plus next year's first and then add Cowen because let's be honest. Colorado isn't making a move with ROR if no Dman is coming back. If I'm including Cowen then I want something else back also from them.

I know a lot of people think that Cowen has lost a lot of value but I believe there's still a lot of hopes from other GM s acquiring him that he could live up to top 4 material.
Also people might be very surprised how little ROR gets.
Not the same player but you look at the return boychuck got with a year left? 2 2nds.
I would imagine that lazar and a 1st for next year plus Cowen would get us ROR +  back. Maybe a 2nd rounder or 3rd back.

I think people need to cool it with the insane payment expectations and the "no chance" declarations. Zadorov is no big deal and Wiercioch or Cowen and Prince would be a healthy offer for that player.

You offer that up for ROR and 28 teams beat it IMO.  Imagine how quick Murray would make that deal?  We all wish.

Really? I see a bunch of teams not being able to make an offer because of cap restrictions and a bunch of other teams because he won't resign with them.
The list isn't short but it doesn't involve 15 teams either.