2012 NHL Draft

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:Oilers should be trading that pick, there is absolutely no way they can build a team without a commitment (small or otherwise) to building the back end.

I can't imagine a scenario where they won't, unless they peg Yakupov as Hall's replacement when he gets his annual shoulder injury.

I like some of their pieces on the backend, Klefbom and Musil should both be solid, although unspectacular. They go well with Smid, but where's that dynamic player on the backend? Every team that wins a Cup has someone like that, whether it's Lidstrom/Kronwall, Boyle, Niedermayer, Pronger, Chara.

Maybe they're hoping they can get away with being a Carolina Hurricanes circa 06.

Riprock wrote:
Fact is, they will get those players eventually. Edmonton is slowly becoming a place for FA's to play - lots of $$$ and young stars.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:Oilers should be trading that pick, there is absolutely no way they can build a team without a commitment (small or otherwise) to building the back end.

I can't imagine a scenario where they won't, unless they peg Yakupov as Hall's replacement when he gets his annual shoulder injury.

I like some of their pieces on the backend, Klefbom and Musil should both be solid, although unspectacular. They go well with Smid, but where's that dynamic player on the backend? Every team that wins a Cup has someone like that, whether it's Lidstrom/Kronwall, Boyle, Niedermayer, Pronger, Chara.

Maybe they're hoping they can get away with being a Carolina Hurricanes circa 06.

I'm talking about a trade for a young NHL D man or two. Like a Schenn and Gardnier, or Hamonick and Ninorider. Something along those lines. They need Yakapov like they need another last place finish. If Edmonton doesn't start building their blueline they will see a dynasty fall by the wasteside.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:Oilers should be trading that pick, there is absolutely no way they can build a team without a commitment (small or otherwise) to building the back end.

I can't imagine a scenario where they won't, unless they peg Yakupov as Hall's replacement when he gets his annual shoulder injury.

I like some of their pieces on the backend, Klefbom and Musil should both be solid, although unspectacular. They go well with Smid, but where's that dynamic player on the backend? Every team that wins a Cup has someone like that, whether it's Lidstrom/Kronwall, Boyle, Niedermayer, Pronger, Chara.

Maybe they're hoping they can get away with being a Carolina Hurricanes circa 06.

I'm talking about a trade for a young NHL D man or two. Like a Schenn and Gardnier, or Hamonick and Ninorider. Something along those lines. They need Yakapov like they need another last place finish. If Edmonton doesn't start building their blueline they will see a dynasty fall by the wasteside.

Ninoreider is a F - and a busting one at that it looks like. Hamonic + Isles 4th overall for the 1st is a great deal, Edmonton should be all over that. Love that kid, he has a ton of heart and skill. They'll never pry Gardiner away from Burke unless he's truly got Dung for brains, Schenn + 5th overall for 1st is also a decent deal though. Schenn needs to get out of that hellhole.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:Oilers should be trading that pick, there is absolutely no way they can build a team without a commitment (small or otherwise) to building the back end.

I can't imagine a scenario where they won't, unless they peg Yakupov as Hall's replacement when he gets his annual shoulder injury.

I like some of their pieces on the backend, Klefbom and Musil should both be solid, although unspectacular. They go well with Smid, but where's that dynamic player on the backend? Every team that wins a Cup has someone like that, whether it's Lidstrom/Kronwall, Boyle, Niedermayer, Pronger, Chara.

Maybe they're hoping they can get away with being a Carolina Hurricanes circa 06.

I'm talking about a trade for a young NHL D man or two. Like a Schenn and Gardnier, or Hamonick and Ninorider. Something along those lines. They need Yakapov like they need another last place finish. If Edmonton doesn't start building their blueline they will see a dynasty fall by the wasteside.

Ninoreider is a F - and a busting one at that it looks like. Hamonic + Isles 4th overall for the 1st is a great deal, Edmonton should be all over that. Love that kid, he has a ton of heart and skill. They'll never pry Gardiner away from Burke unless he's truly got Dung for brains, Schenn + 5th overall for 1st is also a decent deal though. Schenn needs to get out of that hellhole.

Schenn isn't enough, he's a Smid, probably close to a clone. They need a puck mover. The best deal that could be made is Subban and the 3rd for the 1st. Montreal won't do anything with Subban taking up so much air he might as well be a blimp. Montreal has turned him into some sort of weird God with the fans and he hasn't earned a damn thing other than the label of "a ton of potential".

Either way, Edmonton would be foolish not to improve their blueline with this pick. They can draft a top D man and land a potential #1, 2 guy at the exact same time. Build the team right but it's Edmonton and they will probably screw it up some how.

SpezDispenser wrote:

I feel strongly that Subban is a cancer.

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

I feel strongly that Subban is a cancer.

No way. He's a strong team guy all the way since Belleville. His family is just full of characters.

Big Ev wrote:I would draft Yakupov and trade Hall. I don't want two injury prone players who don't play D on my roster, and Yakupov is the better talent.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

I feel strongly that Subban is a cancer.

No way. He's a strong team guy all the way since Belleville. His family is just full of characters.

I don't think I can take your word for that. What I see and hear is bad, bad, bad news for a young player with 'potential'. Bad.

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

I feel strongly that Subban is a cancer.

No way. He's a strong team guy all the way since Belleville. His family is just full of characters.

I don't think I can take your word for that. What I see and hear is bad, bad, bad news for a young player with 'potential'. Bad.

what do you "see and hear". Enlighten me.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:Oilers should be trading that pick, there is absolutely no way they can build a team without a commitment (small or otherwise) to building the back end.

I can't imagine a scenario where they won't, unless they peg Yakupov as Hall's replacement when he gets his annual shoulder injury.

I like some of their pieces on the backend, Klefbom and Musil should both be solid, although unspectacular. They go well with Smid, but where's that dynamic player on the backend? Every team that wins a Cup has someone like that, whether it's Lidstrom/Kronwall, Boyle, Niedermayer, Pronger, Chara.

Maybe they're hoping they can get away with being a Carolina Hurricanes circa 06.

I'm talking about a trade for a young NHL D man or two. Like a Schenn and Gardnier, or Hamonick and Ninorider. Something along those lines. They need Yakapov like they need another last place finish. If Edmonton doesn't start building their blueline they will see a dynasty fall by the wasteside.

Ninoreider is a F - and a busting one at that it looks like. Hamonic + Isles 4th overall for the 1st is a great deal, Edmonton should be all over that. Love that kid, he has a ton of heart and skill. They'll never pry Gardiner away from Burke unless he's truly got Dung for brains, Schenn + 5th overall for 1st is also a decent deal though. Schenn needs to get out of that hellhole.

Schenn isn't enough, he's a Smid, probably close to a clone. They need a puck mover. The best deal that could be made is Subban and the 3rd for the 1st. Montreal won't do anything with Subban taking up so much air he might as well be a blimp. Montreal has turned him into some sort of weird God with the fans and he hasn't earned a damn thing other than the label of "a ton of potential".

Either way, Edmonton would be foolish not to improve their blueline with this pick. They can draft a top D man and land a potential #1, 2 guy at the exact same time. Build the team right but it's Edmonton and they will probably screw it up some how.

tim1_2 wrote:The fantasy trade of Subban + 3rd overall for the 1st overall can be touted all we want, but I think the "optics" of this trade would be too poor for Montreal to even consider doing it. As we know, "optics" play a big role in decisions made in Montreal. Subban, as stated, as become a weird god to the fans, and giving him up to move up 2 spots is not going to happen.

Although I agree that it would benefit Montreal in the end.

Riprock wrote:If it were Ottawa getting 1st overall pick year after year you'd all be fine with it lol. Don't lie - if the Sens sucked you'd want them getting the pick. When he Sens had the 5th overall pick Sens fans were pissed off about being screwed by the draft and lost their chance at RNH/Landeskog/Huberdeau/etc. then they draft Zibanejad and all of a sudden it's like we got the steal of the draft lol.

Need to relax a bit here fellow Sens fans.

Edmonton just was the wort team the past 3 seasons, plain and simple. They lucked out slightly moving up OBE spot this year in the draft. They still would have gotten a very good player. You can hate all you ant and say that they will continue to lose because they lack defence and goaltending, but can you really blame Tambelini for not setting the franchise back by trading for one? If the cost for a young franchise goalie like Schneider was Eberle, of course you can't blame him.

Fact is, they will get those players eventually. Edmonton is slowly becoming a place for FA's to play - lots of $$$ and young stars.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

I feel strongly that Subban is a cancer.

No way. He's a strong team guy all the way since Belleville. His family is just full of characters.

I don't think I can take your word for that. What I see and hear is bad, bad, bad news for a young player with 'potential'. Bad.

what do you "see and hear". Enlighten me.

That he's a punk and that his teammates dislike him and that he can't even go through a month without getting into a fight....with his own teammates.