O.k. Riddle time

wprager wrote:

PKC wrote:My solution still works though. Look:

1. Councilor is obviously not a liar. His report of his findings down path 1 are indisputable.
2. Since he sent 4 people each down paths 2 and 3:
a. If there is a dispute in path 2 there are two options:
i. One of the liars is in the group, in which case he would be outvoted 3-to-1
ii. Both of the liars are in this group, in which case path 3's group is telling the truth about their findings and path 2 can be discredited because both liars are in that group.

That leads me to the conclusion that path 4 is the path to take assuming none of the other groups found that their path led back to the campsite.

Bah, this riddle sucks. The councilor should tell everyone to go Diddle themselves for being a bunch of distrustful Diddle. Like who gets lost and decides to lie to the rest of the group about where their path leads. What's the point? Their still lost too.

You know what a better solution is? Send everyone down all 4 paths, come back in an hour and wait for the liars to head down the right path and just follow them. Like why is everyone power tripping, especially this piece of Dung councilor who's trying to run the show and everything. Diddle him, who's he to say who goes where and for how long? He's the liar. And the dumbass for getting lost and not having enough decency to have an idea of the layout of the campsite they are at. Like who goes for a long Donkey walk but doesn't remember how to get back?

Diddle it!

OK, let's analyze your solution.

The councilor comes back wihtout having found the camp. The first group of campers comes back with a split vote: two of them say camp's that way but the other two say nuh-huh. At this point you know that both liars are in this group and are both, in fact, lying. However you still have no idea about their path -- does it lead to the camp or not? So if the last group comes back and says they did not find the camp either you only know for sure about two paths -- not enough info to draw a conclusion.

By the way, the riddle is a nice analogy for error correction scheme that handles up to two bit errors.

Tukker wrote:
tell em you're going down each path yourself, and will kill each of the lying sons of Wing Dang Doodle with a rusty hunting knife if they don't fess up now

wprager wrote:

Tukker wrote:
tell em you're going down each path yourself, and will kill each of the lying sons of Wing Dang Doodle with a rusty hunting knife if they don't fess up now

That would work, too. You might have to look for another summer job next year, though.

Tukker wrote:
tell em you're going down each path yourself, and will kill each of the lying sons of Wing Dang Doodle with a rusty hunting knife if they don't fess up now