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PTFlea wrote:Faulk to st Louis apparently.

The Jerks continue to amaze.

i'm not a huge fan of the deal for either team to be honest. Don't see much upside either side

Bokk is going to be very good and Faulk can already be internally replaced by better players in Hamilton or Gardiner.

Ev wrote:i'm not a huge fan of the deal for either team to be honest. Don't see much upside either side

Pretty meh for both, yeah. Depends on Bokk I guess.

M. Tkachuk 3 x $7M. Same dollar value that I think Brady will sign for

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:M. Tkachuk 3 x $7M. Same dollar value that I think Brady will sign for

See, this is where I find it tricky. 3 years is not a long time, nor is 4 when it comes to hockey players in their prime.

If Tkatchuk opts for arbitration after the 3 years, he can be awarded a 1 year contract that takes him straight to free agency.

I don't like that, I'd rather try for 8 years and up the AVV.

PTFlea wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:M. Tkachuk 3 x $7M. Same dollar value that I think Brady will sign for

See, this is where I find it tricky.  3 years is not a long time, nor is 4 when it comes to hockey players in their prime.

If Tkatchuk opts for arbitration after the 3 years, he can be awarded a 1 year contract that takes him straight to free agency.

I don't like that, I'd rather try for 8 years and up the AVV.

Yeah but the flames had little to no cap space. I think they got squeezed. They cross their fingers that either the cap goes up and allows them to change their cap situation in the next 3 years but of course they risk the chance of arb as you said.

It’s not easy. Good thing we are able to lock up our best players in the next few years and by the time Lafreniere needs a contract, Bobby Ryan will be off the books

Sens more or less have a blank slate with a ton of prospects in the system. we need an elite forward or two and we'll be a playoff team again in another season or two.

Flo The Action wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:M. Tkachuk 3 x $7M. Same dollar value that I think Brady will sign for

See, this is where I find it tricky.  3 years is not a long time, nor is 4 when it comes to hockey players in their prime.

If Tkatchuk opts for arbitration after the 3 years, he can be awarded a 1 year contract that takes him straight to free agency.

I don't like that, I'd rather try for 8 years and up the AVV.

Yeah but the flames had little to no cap space. I think they got squeezed. They cross their fingers that either the cap goes up and allows them to change their cap situation in the next 3 years but of course they risk the chance of arb as you said.

It’s not easy. Good thing we are able to lock up our best players in the next few years and by the time Lafreniere  needs a contract, Bobby Ryan will be off the books

As soon as you give marquee players a choice, it can come back and really bite you. Give Tkachuk 3 years, he elects arbitration for 1 year, then he goes to UFA. Calgary could be saying anything they want and he might be looking at the green pastures of UFA at the age of 25 and ready to have a bidding war over his services.

I think it's very dangerous - and as a Sens fan, I don't want any part of it. Hopefully Brady will look at the same contract as Chabot, but now you're starting to see that it's not a slam dunk at all and that Ottawa really signed Chabot to an amazing contract. Really forward thinking for once.

PTFlea wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:M. Tkachuk 3 x $7M. Same dollar value that I think Brady will sign for

See, this is where I find it tricky.  3 years is not a long time, nor is 4 when it comes to hockey players in their prime.

If Tkatchuk opts for arbitration after the 3 years, he can be awarded a 1 year contract that takes him straight to free agency.

I don't like that, I'd rather try for 8 years and up the AVV.

Yeah but the flames had little to no cap space. I think they got squeezed. They cross their fingers that either the cap goes up and allows them to change their cap situation in the next 3 years but of course they risk the chance of arb as you said.

It’s not easy. Good thing we are able to lock up our best players in the next few years and by the time Lafreniere  needs a contract, Bobby Ryan will be off the books

As soon as you give marquee players a choice, it can come back and really bite you.  Give Tkachuk 3 years, he elects arbitration for 1 year, then he goes to UFA.  Calgary could be saying anything they want and he might be looking at the green pastures of UFA at the age of 25 and ready to have a bidding war over his services.

I think it's very dangerous - and as a Sens fan, I don't want any part of it.  Hopefully Brady will look at the same contract as Chabot, but now you're starting to see that it's not a slam dunk at all and that Ottawa really signed Chabot to an amazing contract.  Really forward thinking for once.

Yeah, it’s a very dangerous game for sure. I’m just saying they might not had much of a chance. Who do they trade to make room for his larger contract on the books? They don’t have wiggle room this year.

The Sens might be In a good situation as of now but that will change if Melny doesn’t sell the team. We’re under our own cap.

I also hope we sign Brady to a 7-8 years but judging whathis brother just got on a 3 year do you really think he signs a long term deal for the same dollar value? Do you actually want to give him the same contract than Chabot? I know values of contracts go up every year but I have my reservations about giving Chabot money to Tkachuk. Vidently we don’t know what tis year will look like for him at the moment.
Let us see

Flo The Action wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:M. Tkachuk 3 x $7M. Same dollar value that I think Brady will sign for

See, this is where I find it tricky.  3 years is not a long time, nor is 4 when it comes to hockey players in their prime.

If Tkatchuk opts for arbitration after the 3 years, he can be awarded a 1 year contract that takes him straight to free agency.

I don't like that, I'd rather try for 8 years and up the AVV.

Yeah but the flames had little to no cap space. I think they got squeezed. They cross their fingers that either the cap goes up and allows them to change their cap situation in the next 3 years but of course they risk the chance of arb as you said.

It’s not easy. Good thing we are able to lock up our best players in the next few years and by the time Lafreniere  needs a contract, Bobby Ryan will be off the books

As soon as you give marquee players a choice, it can come back and really bite you.  Give Tkachuk 3 years, he elects arbitration for 1 year, then he goes to UFA.  Calgary could be saying anything they want and he might be looking at the green pastures of UFA at the age of 25 and ready to have a bidding war over his services.

I think it's very dangerous - and as a Sens fan, I don't want any part of it.  Hopefully Brady will look at the same contract as Chabot, but now you're starting to see that it's not a slam dunk at all and that Ottawa really signed Chabot to an amazing contract.  Really forward thinking for once.

Yeah, it’s a very dangerous game for sure. I’m just saying they might not had much of a chance. Who do they trade to make room for his larger contract on the books? They don’t have wiggle room this year.

The Sens might be In a good situation as of now but that will change if Melny doesn’t sell the team. We’re under our own cap.

I also hope we sign Brady to a 7-8 years but judging whathis brother just got on a 3 year do you really think he signs a long term deal for the same dollar value? Do you actually want to give him the same contract than Chabot? I know values of contracts go up every year but I have my reservations about giving Chabot money to Tkachuk. Vidently we don’t know what tis year will look like for him at the moment.
Let us see

8 x 8 perhaps. Nothing less imo. But he hasn't hit 30 plus goals yet, even if his brother is older, he's done it.

Maybe these teams feel confident signing them long after the 3 years. It makes me nervous personally. Probably because I'm an Ottawa in the melnyk era.

Does TB or Vegas win the Presidents trophy?

So, after last night, still unwilling to give Tkachuk $8x8?

Give it to him.

Lagoon wrote:Does TB or Vegas win the Presidents trophy?

I think we should be good to do our pre season ranking and predictions for this weekend.

Ouch, rumours out there that Drouin is on the block. That's...disastrous for Montreal.

PTFlea wrote:Ouch, rumours out there that Drouin is on the block.  That's...disastrous for Montreal.

is it just a rumor though or something serious? tbh honest i could see those being rumors started by the club to light a fire under his Donkey. i guess he hasn't shown much this fall but i'm not sure the habs would be looking to part ways with him just yet.

Flo The Action wrote:

PTFlea wrote:Ouch, rumours out there that Drouin is on the block.  That's...disastrous for Montreal.

is it just a rumor though or something serious? tbh honest i could see those being rumors started by the club to light a fire under his Donkey. i guess he hasn't shown much this fall but i'm not sure the habs would be looking to part ways with him just yet.

Yeah that was a tough trade at the time and even tougher now seeing how good sergachev's become.

Does anyone else think Kotkaniemi is going to be the guy that regresses as a sophomore? He's looked uninspired all pre-season.