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tim1_2


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Claesson has had half a shot and not done much with it at the NHL level. I expect he'll get a few games here and there when injuries crop up.

As for Lazar, I don't think he's in a make or break year at all...if he doesn't step up the offensive production, he's just solidified his position on the 3rd/4th lines indefinitely.

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tim1_2 wrote:Claesson has had half a shot and not done much with it at the NHL level.  I expect he'll get a few games here and there when injuries crop up.  

As for Lazar, I don't think he's in a make or break year at all...if he doesn't step up the offensive production, he's just solidified his position on the 3rd/4th lines indefinitely.

Claesson was also paired with Karlsson during his call-up. As a 5-6 dman he'll be in a much better position to be successful.

That's what I mean. But I think this solidifies him as a 3rd liner versus a 4th liner. He needs 12-15 goals minimum this year to justify him as a 3rd liner which is equivalent to his last two years combined.

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McGratton signs with the Panthers:



The Nottingham Panthers.

Flo The Action

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wprager wrote:McGratton signs with the Panthers:



The Nottingham Panthers.
Wow, the English league is terrible. He'll likely be his team's top scorer.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think Sieloff will be our #5 d-man next to Wideman. Hockeysfuture:

"Sieloff put his injury issues behind him for with Calgary AHL affiliate Adirondack last season and will look to continue progressing into an NHL defenseman with new Flames' AHL affiliate Stockton in 2015-16. With Dougie Hamilton and several other young defenders now with the NHL club, Calgary can afford to show some patience with Sieloff. Unlike many of the other defensemen in the Flames' pipeline, he is almost strictly a defender with little offensive inclination. His punishing style and responsibility in his own end of the ice should compliment some of the other high fliers, allowing his partner to take chances and be ambitious offensively. "

Nothing about him really screams him making the nhl out of camp, especially in place of Boro.

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PTFlea wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think Sieloff will be our #5 d-man next to Wideman. Hockeysfuture:

"Sieloff put his injury issues behind him for with Calgary AHL affiliate Adirondack last season and will look to continue progressing into an NHL defenseman with new Flames' AHL affiliate Stockton in 2015-16. With Dougie Hamilton and several other young defenders now with the NHL club, Calgary can afford to show some patience with Sieloff. Unlike many of the other defensemen in the Flames' pipeline, he is almost strictly a defender with little offensive inclination. His punishing style and responsibility in his own end of the ice should compliment some of the other high fliers, allowing his partner to take chances and be ambitious offensively. "

Nothing about him really screams him making the nhl out of camp, especially in place of Boro.
Yeah he sounds almost like Boro to me, brings defending and physicality.
Might be a guy that sees some games this year if we see injury but to me this was likely a move to shore up the blue line in bingo and provide stability down these.

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think Sieloff will be our #5 d-man next to Wideman. Hockeysfuture:

"Sieloff put his injury issues behind him for with Calgary AHL affiliate Adirondack last season and will look to continue progressing into an NHL defenseman with new Flames' AHL affiliate Stockton in 2015-16. With Dougie Hamilton and several other young defenders now with the NHL club, Calgary can afford to show some patience with Sieloff. Unlike many of the other defensemen in the Flames' pipeline, he is almost strictly a defender with little offensive inclination. His punishing style and responsibility in his own end of the ice should compliment some of the other high fliers, allowing his partner to take chances and be ambitious offensively. "

Nothing about him really screams him making the nhl out of camp, especially in place of Boro.
Yeah he sounds almost like Boro to me, brings defending and physicality.
Might be a guy that sees some games this year if we see injury but to me this was likely a move to shore up the blue line in bingo and provide stability down these.  

I think he'll have to prove himself before he ever gets to the NHL. If I was Boucher, I'd want Boro in that 6th position. I've always liked how physical he is and what a punishing, stay-at-home D-man he is. He can't pass, but I guess that's what Wideman is for.

Also not hugely impressed with Claesson, although that was under Cameron, so who knows. I'd be looking at a veteran guy who doesn't have a contract to come in as a PTO and try to bolster things on our bottom pairing. Boro and Wideman don't have to play every night, they could alternate in and out of the lineup and be just fine IMO.

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I think Sieloff is only 22 so he could be a player down the road. We're only talking about the bottom pairing although the right complement for Wideman could bring some supplementary production.

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PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think Sieloff will be our #5 d-man next to Wideman. Hockeysfuture:

"Sieloff put his injury issues behind him for with Calgary AHL affiliate Adirondack last season and will look to continue progressing into an NHL defenseman with new Flames' AHL affiliate Stockton in 2015-16. With Dougie Hamilton and several other young defenders now with the NHL club, Calgary can afford to show some patience with Sieloff. Unlike many of the other defensemen in the Flames' pipeline, he is almost strictly a defender with little offensive inclination. His punishing style and responsibility in his own end of the ice should compliment some of the other high fliers, allowing his partner to take chances and be ambitious offensively. "

Nothing about him really screams him making the nhl out of camp, especially in place of Boro.
Yeah he sounds almost like Boro to me, brings defending and physicality.
Might be a guy that sees some games this year if we see injury but to me this was likely a move to shore up the blue line in bingo and provide stability down these.  

I think he'll have to prove himself before he ever gets to the NHL.  If I was Boucher, I'd want Boro in that 6th position.  I've always liked how physical he is and what a punishing, stay-at-home D-man he is.  He can't pass, but I guess that's what Wideman is for.

Also not hugely impressed with Claesson, although that was under Cameron, so who knows.  I'd be looking at a veteran guy who doesn't have a contract to come in as a PTO and try to bolster things on our bottom pairing.  Boro and Wideman don't have to play every night, they could alternate in and out of the lineup and be just fine IMO.
It's a bit touch and go with Boro. On some night I really appreciate him and on some night I slap my forehead at his choice of plays. Sometimes you're better off not making the hits and taking care of the puck. I think he's a 7th dman type of player you play against certain types of teams. I think after this season we might have a better option internally than him.

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think Sieloff will be our #5 d-man next to Wideman. Hockeysfuture:

"Sieloff put his injury issues behind him for with Calgary AHL affiliate Adirondack last season and will look to continue progressing into an NHL defenseman with new Flames' AHL affiliate Stockton in 2015-16. With Dougie Hamilton and several other young defenders now with the NHL club, Calgary can afford to show some patience with Sieloff. Unlike many of the other defensemen in the Flames' pipeline, he is almost strictly a defender with little offensive inclination. His punishing style and responsibility in his own end of the ice should compliment some of the other high fliers, allowing his partner to take chances and be ambitious offensively. "

Nothing about him really screams him making the nhl out of camp, especially in place of Boro.
Yeah he sounds almost like Boro to me, brings defending and physicality.
Might be a guy that sees some games this year if we see injury but to me this was likely a move to shore up the blue line in bingo and provide stability down these.  

I think he'll have to prove himself before he ever gets to the NHL.  If I was Boucher, I'd want Boro in that 6th position.  I've always liked how physical he is and what a punishing, stay-at-home D-man he is.  He can't pass, but I guess that's what Wideman is for.

Also not hugely impressed with Claesson, although that was under Cameron, so who knows.  I'd be looking at a veteran guy who doesn't have a contract to come in as a PTO and try to bolster things on our bottom pairing.  Boro and Wideman don't have to play every night, they could alternate in and out of the lineup and be just fine IMO.
It's a bit touch and go with Boro. On some night I really appreciate him and on some night I slap my forehead at his choice of plays. Sometimes you're better off not making the hits and taking care of the puck. I think he's a 7th dman type of player you play against certain types of teams. I think after this season we might have a better option internally than him.

I think Boro does what he's told to do. And he may have to adapt to save his job. I know he won't be giving up his spot willingly. He was the PP quarterback in college, for instance.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think Sieloff will be our #5 d-man next to Wideman. Hockeysfuture:

"Sieloff put his injury issues behind him for with Calgary AHL affiliate Adirondack last season and will look to continue progressing into an NHL defenseman with new Flames' AHL affiliate Stockton in 2015-16. With Dougie Hamilton and several other young defenders now with the NHL club, Calgary can afford to show some patience with Sieloff. Unlike many of the other defensemen in the Flames' pipeline, he is almost strictly a defender with little offensive inclination. His punishing style and responsibility in his own end of the ice should compliment some of the other high fliers, allowing his partner to take chances and be ambitious offensively. "

Nothing about him really screams him making the nhl out of camp, especially in place of Boro.
Yeah he sounds almost like Boro to me, brings defending and physicality.
Might be a guy that sees some games this year if we see injury but to me this was likely a move to shore up the blue line in bingo and provide stability down these.  

I think he'll have to prove himself before he ever gets to the NHL.  If I was Boucher, I'd want Boro in that 6th position.  I've always liked how physical he is and what a punishing, stay-at-home D-man he is.  He can't pass, but I guess that's what Wideman is for.

Also not hugely impressed with Claesson, although that was under Cameron, so who knows.  I'd be looking at a veteran guy who doesn't have a contract to come in as a PTO and try to bolster things on our bottom pairing.  Boro and Wideman don't have to play every night, they could alternate in and out of the lineup and be just fine IMO.
It's a bit touch and go with Boro. On some night I really appreciate him and on some night I slap my forehead at his choice of plays. Sometimes you're better off not making the hits and taking care of the puck. I think he's a 7th dman type of player you play against certain types of teams. I think after this season we might have a better option internally than him.

I think Boro does what he's told to do. And he may have to adapt to save his job. I know he won't be giving up his spot willingly. He was the PP quarterback in college, for instance.

I think with experience will come dialing back the massive hits thar take him out of plays.

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Boro will do what he's told, I think that's the best part of his game.


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HFB proposal: 

To Ottawa:
Rieder, 3rd

To Arizona:
Lazar, Boro

Would you do it?

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Remember when the Sens had a trade in place with Edmonton? Spezza for Smid, Penner, and Cogliano. 


At this point, would you rather the Sens had made that trade or the eventual trade with the Stars?



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spader wrote:HFB proposal: 

To Ottawa:
Rieder, 3rd

To Arizona:
Lazar, Boro

Would you do it?
Not really. Not sure rieder will be anything special.

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spader wrote:Remember when the Sens had a trade in place with Edmonton? Spezza for Smid, Penner, and Cogliano. 

At this point, would you rather the Sens had made that trade or the eventual trade with the Stars?
No, that was the package that was proposed for heatley.

The trade that was nixed before spezza going to the stars was with Nashville.

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Flo The Action wrote:
spader wrote:Remember when the Sens had a trade in place with Edmonton? Spezza for Smid, Penner, and Cogliano. 

At this point, would you rather the Sens had made that trade or the eventual trade with the Stars?
No, that was the package that was proposed for heatley.

The trade that was nixed before spezza going to the stars was with Nashville.

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spader wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
spader wrote:Remember when the Sens had a trade in place with Edmonton? Spezza for Smid, Penner, and Cogliano. 

At this point, would you rather the Sens had made that trade or the eventual trade with the Stars?
No, that was the package that was proposed for heatley.

The trade that was nixed before spezza going to the stars was with Nashville.

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