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Michallica wrote:RYJO is a healthy scratch tonight!  Lazar never gets scratched.  Pretty sure CBL is getting the better player.... Sarcasm

Actually, I'm only half kidding. Lazar has a good reputation around the league and he might be more of a 'torts' type of player than Zibanejad.  If you could have your top 3 centers be Turris, RYJO, and Zibanejad, that's a pretty damn good lineup.  And the 4th center is Pageau.

Personally, would rather do that.  But yeah would need to add more.  Cowen is a project but is a big physical guy that will get attention (might fit what CBJ is going for).  Wikstrand is a wild card who prior to training camp was touted as one of our best prospcts.  ANd he's swedish, maybe kekkalainen (definitely butchered that spelling) can talk sense into him and get him to come back next season.  

I don't know, ya'll are nuts, my deal makes sense and CBJ would be stupid to pass it up.  
a projected ok player that isn't producing, a project and a project that doesn't want to come over to NA... And a 2nd rounder. For a guy that is looking like a #1 center. Ya. Seems like a a good deal. Hahaha.

They would ask for Zib and probably Ceci (cue SSF) in a deal.
I'd obviously counter with Zib, Cowen/wier and a second. That's a fair enough deal. Maybe switch the second for a third.

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I did say I was half kidding. I just don't think it's as far fetched to think Lazar could be a key piece in a deal. But obviously CBJ will want zibanejad.

I'd argue that you could maybe replace lazar with zibanejad in my deal and it would be pretty close.

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Michallica wrote:I did say I was half kidding.  I just don't think it's as far fetched to think Lazar could be a key piece in a deal.  But obviously CBJ will want zibanejad.

I'd argue that you could maybe replace lazar with zibanejad in my deal and it would be pretty close.
I'd argue you couldn't. There is a huge gap between lazar and Zib at this moment. Especially in terms of what offence they can manufacture.

If you sub Zib with lazar you'd have to sub Cowen with Ceci.
Not acceptable terms. :crossarms:

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Flo The Action wrote:
Michallica wrote:I did say I was half kidding.  I just don't think it's as far fetched to think Lazar could be a key piece in a deal.  But obviously CBJ will want zibanejad.

I'd argue that you could maybe replace lazar with zibanejad in my deal and it would be pretty close.
I'd argue you couldn't. There is a huge gap between lazar and Zib at this moment. Especially in terms of what offence they can manufacture.  

If you sub Zib with lazar you'd have to sub Cowen with Ceci.
Not acceptable terms. :crossarms:

So far I've read here that having to part with Ceci would be a deal breaker for Duchene and now Johansen.

Sorry but that's just Cesilly.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Michallica wrote:I did say I was half kidding.  I just don't think it's as far fetched to think Lazar could be a key piece in a deal.  But obviously CBJ will want zibanejad.

I'd argue that you could maybe replace lazar with zibanejad in my deal and it would be pretty close.
I'd argue you couldn't. There is a huge gap between lazar and Zib at this moment. Especially in terms of what offence they can manufacture.  

If you sub Zib with lazar you'd have to sub Cowen with Ceci.
Not acceptable terms. :crossarms:

So far I've read here that having to part with Ceci would be a deal breaker for Duchene and now Johansen.

Sorry but that's just Cesilly.
I see losing Ceci creates a hole which we cannot fill. Bringing johansen makes us better but we shouldn't put ourselves at a loss. Who plays top 4 right side? I'm not opposed to trading Ceci, just has to be the right deal with the right fit.

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Flo The Action wrote:
Michallica wrote:I did say I was half kidding.  I just don't think it's as far fetched to think Lazar could be a key piece in a deal.  But obviously CBJ will want zibanejad.

I'd argue that you could maybe replace lazar with zibanejad in my deal and it would be pretty close.
I'd argue you couldn't. There is a huge gap between lazar and Zib at this moment. Especially in terms of what offence they can manufacture.  

If you sub Zib with lazar you'd have to sub Cowen with Ceci.
Not acceptable terms. :crossarms:

I said it the other way, (swap lazar with zib in my proposal)

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I said it before -- you cannot have Turris, Johansen, Zibanejad down the middle, and Pageau is too good to be a 4LC. Any deal for RyJo means Zibanejad going the other way. I'd be fine with that.


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Flo The Action wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
Michallica wrote:I did say I was half kidding.  I just don't think it's as far fetched to think Lazar could be a key piece in a deal.  But obviously CBJ will want zibanejad.

I'd argue that you could maybe replace lazar with zibanejad in my deal and it would be pretty close.
I'd argue you couldn't. There is a huge gap between lazar and Zib at this moment. Especially in terms of what offence they can manufacture.  

If you sub Zib with lazar you'd have to sub Cowen with Ceci.
Not acceptable terms. :crossarms:

So far I've read here that having to part with Ceci would be a deal breaker for Duchene and now Johansen.

Sorry but that's just Cesilly.
I see losing Ceci creates a hole which we cannot fill. Bringing johansen makes us better but we shouldn't put ourselves at a loss. Who plays top 4 right side? I'm not opposed to trading Ceci, just has to be the right deal with the right fit.


You move up Wideman and bring in Kostka on the bottom. Easyci as pie. Wideman is the better player anyhow.

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wprager wrote:I said it before -- you cannot have Turris, Johansen, Zibanejad down the middle, and Pageau is too good to be a 4LC.  Any deal for RyJo means Zibanejad going the other way.  I'd be fine with that.

That's true. Depth is a real killer. Sarcasm

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wprager wrote:I said it before -- you cannot have Turris, Johansen, Zibanejad down the middle, and Pageau is too good to be a 4LC.  Any deal for RyJo means Zibanejad going the other way.  I'd be fine with that.

Ummmm.....why? In a day and age where depth is touted and people are looking for 2A and 2B centers?

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Michallica wrote:
wprager wrote:I said it before -- you cannot have Turris, Johansen, Zibanejad down the middle, and Pageau is too good to be a 4LC.  Any deal for RyJo means Zibanejad going the other way.  I'd be fine with that.

Ummmm.....why?  In a day and age where depth is touted and people are looking for 2A and 2B centers?

Please ignore Walter's ramblings about having too many good players. I always thought ZBad would be a friggin' great 3rd line centre. Please proceed with acquiring Johansen.

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Lebrun saying kopitar is about to get 8 years at 9.75 mil

Flo The Action

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SpezDispensed wrote:Lebrun saying kopitar is about to get 8 years at 9.75 mil
Kaching!!!

Wonder if he'll be as good for the remainder of that contract.

Every time I hear kopitar I think "Brian Lee..."

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Depth is great if you can afford it. Turris will get a significant raise next contract. RyJo if $6M just to qualify. Zibanejad will not sign for less than $4M and Pageau should get around $2.5M or more. That's why you cannot have those four down the middle.


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In what universe is Pageau getting $2.5M? Anyway, the caps going up, there's no internal budget issue, etc etc, so it shouldn't be a problem, RIGHT?

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I did a quick scan of the so-called internet and no one credible that I could see mentions Ottawa as a potential suitor for Johansen. Nashville seems to be the team that comes up most, followed by St. Louis.

I believe Ottawa are ignored because of their well-known BUDGET considerations.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:I did a quick scan of the so-called internet and no one credible that I could see mentions Ottawa as a potential suitor for Johansen. Nashville seems to be the team that comes up most, followed by St. Louis.

I believe Ottawa are ignored because of their well-known BUDGET considerations.

Pfft. The Internet. What a crock. Lazar + a 2nd rounder gets this deal done.

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tim1_2 wrote:In what universe is Pageau getting $2.5M?  Anyway, the caps going up, there's no internal budget issue, etc etc, so it shouldn't be a problem, RIGHT?

He's going to score 20+ goals and break Alfie's team record for shorthanded goals (7). *THAT* universe.


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