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spader wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Johansen is really good and all, but we don't really need him. That said, if we're trading ZBad+ or something for an upgrade at the #2C postion, then I'd be interested.  But if we're giving up a bunch, I'd rather do it for a good defenceman.

Ceci, Zib, Puempel, 1st

RyJo, Savard

Savard immediately becomes the #3 we're looking for locking down the right side of the second pairing. RyJo plays 1st or 2nd line and our 1-2 punch is the envy of the league.

Boom. Roasted.

EDIT: Considering that RyJo could likely snag a package like Ceci+Pumps+1st on his own, I reserve the right to add to my package. Savard is real good.

Why bother swapping Ceci for savard?

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SpezDispensed wrote:
spader wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Johansen is really good and all, but we don't really need him. That said, if we're trading ZBad+ or something for an upgrade at the #2C postion, then I'd be interested.  But if we're giving up a bunch, I'd rather do it for a good defenceman.

Ceci, Zib, Puempel, 1st

RyJo, Savard

Savard immediately becomes the #3 we're looking for locking down the right side of the second pairing. RyJo plays 1st or 2nd line and our 1-2 punch is the envy of the league.

Boom. Roasted.

EDIT: Considering that RyJo could likely snag a package like Ceci+Pumps+1st on his own, I reserve the right to add to my package. Savard is real good.

Why bother swapping Ceci for savard?

I really like Savard. Shrug

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tim1_2 wrote:
wprager wrote:Price out with an injury, Condon to start the third period.

Woohoo!

They still beat the Rangers 5-1. It was supposed to be a tight game between two of the best clubs in the league. With Ottawa taking care of business in Dallas and this, last night, The Habs now have sole possession of the Presidents Choice Trophy if it were to be handed out today.

Meanwhile the Sens are on a little thing called a winning streak. 4 in a row gets them a nice little 3 day-vacay in Arizona.

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So since Price re-injured the same leg (I assume either a groin or a knee ligament strain) chances are good he won't be back right away. It took more than 2 weeks last time and he only lasted a couple of games. And Gallagher is out 6 weeks. Also read that Semin will miss some time -- not that it really matters with that one. Injuries catching up to their hot start. This *will* slow them down, regardless of the outcome last night.

They have two back-to-back against New Jersey coming up -- that will be 3 games in 4 nights. They could end up losing both games. And if the Sens, then, beat the Coyotes, they'd be 5 back with 2 games in hand.

Dare to dream.


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Very cool story here:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14232028/nhl-week-grab-bag-falls-henrik-lundqvist-gary-bruce-bettman


Last week's obscure player was Ralph Backstrom, a longtime Montreal Canadiens forward who spent almost 15 years in Montreal before being traded to the Los Angeles Kings. But as a few readers pointed out, I left out arguably the most important detail of that trade. So I'm going to fix that now, with the help of this week's obscure player: Gord Labossiere.

Labossiere was a center who played for the Kings, Minnesota North Stars and New York Rangers during a six-year NHL career in the 1960s and '70s. He'd been a minor league star, but was mostly a depth guy at the pro level. And he was also the main piece going to Montreal in the Backstrom trade, back in 1971.

And that's where it gets interesting, because the Habs clearly didn't get much in that deal; they didn't even keep Labossiere, flipping him to Minnesota the same day for prospect Rey Comeau, who would play just four games with Montreal. Even given that Backstrom had asked for a trade, surely GM Sam Pollock could have done better for a multi-time All-Star, right? Wasn't he supposed to be some sort of genius?

Instead, Pollock practically gave Backstrom away, then saw the veteran go to L.A. and rack up 27 points in 33 games. The Kings were a bad team, one that was battling with the Oakland Seals to stay out of last place overall, but adding Backstrom served as the turning point of their season, and they finished well clear of the basement. So Pollock traded a useful player for essentially nothing at all, then watched that player lift his new team in the standings. The Seals wound up with the top pick in that year's draft. Except for one thing: They didn't own their pick that year. They had traded it during the previous offseason to ... Sam Pollock and the Montreal Canadiens. Yep. The Backstrom trade was just Pollock's way of giving the Kings a little boost, an effort to ensure the Canadiens kept the top pick.

Montreal used that first overall pick to select a flashy winger named Guy Lafleur, who would score 518 goals and win five Stanley Cups as a Hab. And the rest of the hockey world learned, once again, a valuable lesson: Sam Pollock is smarter than you.


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wprager wrote:Very cool story here:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14232028/nhl-week-grab-bag-falls-henrik-lundqvist-gary-bruce-bettman


Last week's obscure player was Ralph Backstrom, a longtime Montreal Canadiens forward who spent almost 15 years in Montreal before being traded to the Los Angeles Kings. But as a few readers pointed out, I left out arguably the most important detail of that trade. So I'm going to fix that now, with the help of this week's obscure player: Gord Labossiere.

Labossiere was a center who played for the Kings, Minnesota North Stars and New York Rangers during a six-year NHL career in the 1960s and '70s. He'd been a minor league star, but was mostly a depth guy at the pro level. And he was also the main piece going to Montreal in the Backstrom trade, back in 1971.

And that's where it gets interesting, because the Habs clearly didn't get much in that deal; they didn't even keep Labossiere, flipping him to Minnesota the same day for prospect Rey Comeau, who would play just four games with Montreal. Even given that Backstrom had asked for a trade, surely GM Sam Pollock could have done better for a multi-time All-Star, right? Wasn't he supposed to be some sort of genius?

Instead, Pollock practically gave Backstrom away, then saw the veteran go to L.A. and rack up 27 points in 33 games. The Kings were a bad team, one that was battling with the Oakland Seals to stay out of last place overall, but adding Backstrom served as the turning point of their season, and they finished well clear of the basement. So Pollock traded a useful player for essentially nothing at all, then watched that player lift his new team in the standings. The Seals wound up with the top pick in that year's draft. Except for one thing: They didn't own their pick that year. They had traded it during the previous offseason to ... Sam Pollock and the Montreal Canadiens. Yep. The Backstrom trade was just Pollock's way of giving the Kings a little boost, an effort to ensure the Canadiens kept the top pick.

Montreal used that first overall pick to select a flashy winger named Guy Lafleur, who would score 518 goals and win five Stanley Cups as a Hab. And the rest of the hockey world learned, once again, a valuable lesson: Sam Pollock is smarter than you.
Yeah that's not bad. Of course back then things were a little more clear cut than they are now.

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Reports are Price will miss a month.


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wprager wrote:Reports are Price will miss a month.

Just saw that. Xmas has come early. Condon is due to start losing some games.

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Rangers lose 3-0. With a win in Arizona Sens could be 3 back with a game in hand. Caps play the Leafs. Let's see some of that Babcock Effect.


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Well, so much for the Babcock Effect. 4-2 Caps after 2.

Also the Price-less Habs are up 1-0 on the Devils. Galchenyuk with his 6th. But there's still lots of time.


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wprager wrote:Very cool story here:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14232028/nhl-week-grab-bag-falls-henrik-lundqvist-gary-bruce-bettman


Last week's obscure player was Ralph Backstrom, a longtime Montreal Canadiens forward who spent almost 15 years in Montreal before being traded to the Los Angeles Kings. But as a few readers pointed out, I left out arguably the most important detail of that trade. So I'm going to fix that now, with the help of this week's obscure player: Gord Labossiere.

Labossiere was a center who played for the Kings, Minnesota North Stars and New York Rangers during a six-year NHL career in the 1960s and '70s. He'd been a minor league star, but was mostly a depth guy at the pro level. And he was also the main piece going to Montreal in the Backstrom trade, back in 1971.

And that's where it gets interesting, because the Habs clearly didn't get much in that deal; they didn't even keep Labossiere, flipping him to Minnesota the same day for prospect Rey Comeau, who would play just four games with Montreal. Even given that Backstrom had asked for a trade, surely GM Sam Pollock could have done better for a multi-time All-Star, right? Wasn't he supposed to be some sort of genius?

Instead, Pollock practically gave Backstrom away, then saw the veteran go to L.A. and rack up 27 points in 33 games. The Kings were a bad team, one that was battling with the Oakland Seals to stay out of last place overall, but adding Backstrom served as the turning point of their season, and they finished well clear of the basement. So Pollock traded a useful player for essentially nothing at all, then watched that player lift his new team in the standings. The Seals wound up with the top pick in that year's draft. Except for one thing: They didn't own their pick that year. They had traded it during the previous offseason to ... Sam Pollock and the Montreal Canadiens. Yep. The Backstrom trade was just Pollock's way of giving the Kings a little boost, an effort to ensure the Canadiens kept the top pick.

Montreal used that first overall pick to select a flashy winger named Guy Lafleur, who would score 518 goals and win five Stanley Cups as a Hab. And the rest of the hockey world learned, once again, a valuable lesson: Sam Pollock is smarter than you.

Ha, that's awesome.

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Boy, that night didn't go at all as planned.  Caps won, Habs won (but in OT so at least they had to try a little harder).  Sens lost a very valuable 2 points and now are just 2 ahead of Boston, who have a game in hand.  Sens face the Flyers on Tuesday; Boston is in Edmonton the following night.


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Coloiacovo with a "dented trachea" on cross-check.  Is there any injury he hasn't sustained yet?  



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wprager wrote:Boy, that night didn't go at all as planned.  Caps won, Habs won (but in OT so at least they had to try a little harder).  Sens lost a very valuable 2 points and now are just 2 ahead of Boston, who have a game in hand.  Sens face the Flyers on Tuesday; Boston is in Edmonton the following night.

Meh, we can't win them all though. We were due.

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Price out 6 weeks or more, but no surgery.


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wprager wrote:Price out 6 weeks or more, but no surgery.
TwoThumbsUp!

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Flo The Action wrote:
wprager wrote:Price out 6 weeks or more, but no surgery.
TwoThumbsUp!

Parade un-planned.


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wprager wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
wprager wrote:Price out 6 weeks or more, but no surgery.
TwoThumbsUp!

Parade un-planned.
Ive been very subtly rubbing it in to my habs friends face. There is quite a bit of stress in habs land regarding this. It's lovely to see.

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