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Ev wrote:Probably not

Man, I'm touching the sky right now.

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Ev wrote:Why is Sens skills held during a work day?

School's out. It's mainly for the kids.

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tim1_2 wrote:
Ev wrote:Why is Sens skills held during a work day?

I guess it's more for the kids and it is Christmas break.  That said, if it was in the late afternoon (say, 4 or 5pm), I would've taken my older daughter with me to go check it out...as it stands, I'm at work like a sucker.  It does strike me as odd since most kids would need to attend with an adult.

How many vacation days do you get? (and how many sick days?)

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wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:How good could Hoffman be?  Could he produce at a 30 goal clip at any point?  So much to like about him.

Age aside, this is his first full NHL season. He's third in goals by a rookie and 4th in points. He's leading the team in plus/minus (and his +15 on a team with negative goal differential is pretty impressive). If you sort the rookies by ice time per game he doesn't even show up on the first page.

If you normalize his stats to the time on ice, he's leading all rookies in goals per 60 with 1.44 (Forsberg is at 1.37). His assists are lower than the leaders but I wonder if some of that has to do with the quality of linemates (until recently he was playing fourth line minutes and his linemates included a 19 year old rookie and that scoring machine Eric Condra). Even so, his Pts per 60 is 3rd best among rookies.

He's going to eclipse 20 for sure and probably push 25. No reason he can't score 25-30 consistently at the NHL level.

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tim1_2 wrote:
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tim1_2 wrote:I can't wait to hear the actual story of how this happened.

It won't.  It's either to stupid or too embarrassing or both.  

I bet you Buffet Garrioch has the full scoop on his next scintillating edition of...whatever his TSN segment is called.  

Also, why can't BoroCop just play through this injury...look at the man, he's mostly machine!!!

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wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Ev wrote:Why is Sens skills held during a work day?

I guess it's more for the kids and it is Christmas break.  That said, if it was in the late afternoon (say, 4 or 5pm), I would've taken my older daughter with me to go check it out...as it stands, I'm at work like a sucker.  It does strike me as odd since most kids would need to attend with an adult.

How many vacation days do you get? (and how many sick days?)

20 vacation days...15 or so sick days.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:How good could Hoffman be?  Could he produce at a 30 goal clip at any point?  So much to like about him.

Age aside, this is his first full NHL season. He's third in goals by a rookie and 4th in points. He's leading the team in plus/minus (and his +15 on a team with negative goal differential is pretty impressive). If you sort the rookies by ice time per game he doesn't even show up on the first page.

If you normalize his stats to the time on ice, he's leading all rookies in goals per 60 with 1.44 (Forsberg is at 1.37). His assists are lower than the leaders but I wonder if some of that has to do with the quality of linemates (until recently he was playing fourth line minutes and his linemates included a 19 year old rookie and that scoring machine Eric Condra). Even so, his Pts per 60 is 3rd best among rookies.

He's going to eclipse 20 for sure and probably push 25. No reason he can't score 25-30 consistently at the NHL level.

Same with Ryan. By year's end he'll be pushing 25-30 as well. Need to find a way to get Mac and Turris going again. Stone was invisible last night.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:How good could Hoffman be?  Could he produce at a 30 goal clip at any point?  So much to like about him.

Age aside, this is his first full NHL season.  He's third in goals by a rookie and 4th in points.  He's leading the team in plus/minus (and his +15 on a team with negative goal differential is pretty impressive).  If you sort the rookies by ice time per game he doesn't even show up on the first page.  

If you normalize his stats to the time on ice, he's leading all rookies in goals per 60 with 1.44 (Forsberg is at 1.37).  His assists are lower than the leaders but I wonder if some of that has to do with the quality of linemates (until recently he was playing fourth line minutes and his linemates included a 19 year old rookie and that scoring machine Eric Condra).  Even so, his Pts per 60 is 3rd best among rookies.  

He's going to eclipse 20 for sure and probably push 25. No reason he can't score 25-30 consistently at the NHL level.

LOL, well of course there is. This is his first year. He's playing on a team that consistently faces the other team's backup goalie -- in other words, they are taken lightly. Same is happening to a little-known AHL call up. To get more goals he'd have to get more minutes, which typically means playing higher in the order, more defensive zone starts, higher quality of competition.

Of course it should also mean better quality of linemates and more PP time. But overall the cons often outweigh the pros and that's why "sophomore slump" is a thing.


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I thought Stone made some really smart plays last night personally. He needs to continue to get to the net and mop up though.,

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tim1_2 wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Ev wrote:Why is Sens skills held during a work day?

I guess it's more for the kids and it is Christmas break.  That said, if it was in the late afternoon (say, 4 or 5pm), I would've taken my older daughter with me to go check it out...as it stands, I'm at work like a sucker.  It does strike me as odd since most kids would need to attend with an adult.

How many vacation days do you get?  (and how many sick days?)

20 vacation days...15 or so sick days.  

I used to have 20 days after working at a company 13 years, but then the next job I went back to the standard 15. I've since been there 5 years so I'm now at 20, but company policy is that we take a vacation day when we're sick. Consequently there's a lot of WFH (working from home) that goes on.


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SpezDispensed wrote:I thought Stone made some really smart plays last night personally. He needs to continue to get to the net and mop up though.,

I'd love to see Jagr on that line for the rest of the year. I bet the guy has at least one more year in him after. He'd tear it up with those two while letting Stone develop with Lazar and (insert LW).

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wprager wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:How good could Hoffman be?  Could he produce at a 30 goal clip at any point?  So much to like about him.

Age aside, this is his first full NHL season.  He's third in goals by a rookie and 4th in points.  He's leading the team in plus/minus (and his +15 on a team with negative goal differential is pretty impressive).  If you sort the rookies by ice time per game he doesn't even show up on the first page.  

If you normalize his stats to the time on ice, he's leading all rookies in goals per 60 with 1.44 (Forsberg is at 1.37).  His assists are lower than the leaders but I wonder if some of that has to do with the quality of linemates (until recently he was playing fourth line minutes and his linemates included a 19 year old rookie and that scoring machine Eric Condra).  Even so, his Pts per 60 is 3rd best among rookies.  

He's going to eclipse 20 for sure and probably push 25. No reason he can't score 25-30 consistently at the NHL level.

LOL, well of course there is. This is his first year. He's playing on a team that consistently faces the other team's backup goalie -- in other words, they are taken lightly. Same is happening to a little-known AHL call up. To get more goals he'd have to get more minutes, which typically means playing higher in the order, more defensive zone starts, higher quality of competition.

Of course it should also mean better quality of linemates and more PP time. But overall the cons often outweigh the pros and that's why "sophomore slump" is a thing.

For sure. Look at another pro tough. He's getting virtually no PP time. Add some PP time and his numbers will go up.

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He's not getting as much PP time as Michalek or Stone but beyond those two, who would you bump? Chiasson, maybe, but not Ryan/Turris/Michalek. It's not like he's getting Chris Neil PP ice time. He's just not getting any PP points.


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wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Ev wrote:Why is Sens skills held during a work day?

I guess it's more for the kids and it is Christmas break.  That said, if it was in the late afternoon (say, 4 or 5pm), I would've taken my older daughter with me to go check it out...as it stands, I'm at work like a sucker.  It does strike me as odd since most kids would need to attend with an adult.

How many vacation days do you get?  (and how many sick days?)

20 vacation days...15 or so sick days.  

I used to have 20 days after working at a company 13 years, but then the next job I went back to the standard 15. I've since been there 5 years so I'm now at 20, but company policy is that we take a vacation day when we're sick. Consequently there's a lot of WFH (working from home) that goes on.

Yeah, working from home isn't something we're permitted to do. That kinda sucks that you don't get separate sick days from your vacation leave.

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So Cowen's slapper at the skills competition (106.3) would have won in all prior All Star events with the exception of the last one (Chara got 108.8). Now if only he could stat playing like an all star he could get some votes and actually represent.

I think it's a shame that they do what they do (players get in based on voting and then they compete in events). Since all teams now hold their own skills competitions they should invite the top X winners (can't have 30 in each event). Two sets of players -- one set voted in for the game itself and another set based on measured results.


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Ev wrote:Probably not
you're right... how many players ever have better years then their first year in the NHL. it's all downhill from here.

you got to let go of the devil's advocacy sometimes. at this point it's very probable that hoffman will be able to be this productive going forward. sure other teams will notice but he'll also get better and used to the NHL.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:I thought Stone made some really smart plays last night personally.  He needs to continue to get to the net and mop up though.,

I'd love to see Jagr on that line for the rest of the year. I bet the guy has at least one more year in him after. He'd tear it up with those two while letting Stone develop with Lazar and (insert LW).

Yes please. Jagr is a tank with skill.

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I think the fear with Hoffman is that he gets destroyed one day and is never the same. Otherwise, as long as he keeps up the work ethic, I'd say 25 a year is well within reach. Clearly he has the skill.

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