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Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 12:16 pm
LeKing wrote:Martin St-Louis a couple months ago. Callahan and a 1st.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 12:30 pm
not really comparable. st-louis is at the end of his career and I would of added Vanek as a comparable but it's pretty much accepted that he would walk and sign with minni.spader wrote:LeKing wrote:Martin St-Louis a couple months ago. Callahan and a 1st.
Of course. I knew there was one recently.
DSP and the 10th from the Ducks. Does that do it?
Oshie and St. Louis's 1st. Does that do it?
I have no idea what Nashville would give up that the Sens would want. Who else have we mentioned on here? Dallas? Phoenix? Anyone have proposals for those teams?
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 1:05 pm Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 1:17 pm
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 1:35 pm
SpezDispenser wrote:NEELY wrote:Fair offer but you can get a better deal than that from Anaheim, Dallas, Phoenix, Nashville, and probably a few other teams. Anaheim has the 10th overall which could be a deal breaker, Dallar and Phoenix have a ton of prospects and roster players with potential and higher draft picks...
I wouldn't trade Spezza to St.Louis unless it was Oshie or better coming back to be honest, the idea is to make the Sens better, not to help the Blues.
As for St.Louis they can have all the hard working players who play 200 feet they want, they need a guy who can score and help others score. Oshie is a crowd favorite for sure but he's expendable in St.Louis in a big way. It's probably a good thing fans don't make decisions and they won't be making them in St.Louis either.
The only reason I could see this happening is because of what you stated, they have so many average offensively players who have 'heart' and too few actual offensive players, but that's a risky trade without Spezza agreeing to an extension.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 1:36 pmSpezDispenser wrote:NEELY wrote:We'll see but if they are trading Spezza they need an established player coming back in some form.
Then we need to re-sign Spezza pretty much now. 5 years, 35 million so we can start getting serious. If we trade him as a pending UFA, we'll get a package like the Berglund, Rattie, 1st and that's that.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 1:42 pm
SpezDispenser wrote:I also think Murray will further investigate the offers he got at the deadline for Greening. I don't know if we need a 4th liner making 2.65 as much as I like his speed and his hitting.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 2:33 pm
wprager wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:I also think Murray will further investigate the offers he got at the deadline for Greening. I don't know if we need a 4th liner making 2.65 as much as I like his speed and his hitting.
Tough one. Thornton and Richards were both 1st line centers an wore the C, but Thornton just signed a 3 year deal and Richards had an even longer one.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 2:33 pmsandysensfan wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:NEELY wrote:We'll see but if they are trading Spezza they need an established player coming back in some form.
Then we need to re-sign Spezza pretty much now. 5 years, 35 million so we can start getting serious. If we trade him as a pending UFA, we'll get a package like the Berglund, Rattie, 1st and that's that.
That first round pick is basically worth little in this draft.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 3:38 pm
NEELY wrote:They need to move Spezza before or at the draft, if it drags on past July 4th then the Sens will be in trouble. The next month is going to be filled with rumors and BS to be sure.
One thing the Sens need going into next year is a PF whether that's Stewart, DSP, Oshie, or whoever else.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 5:31 pm Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 6:38 pmSpezDispenser wrote:sandysensfan wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:NEELY wrote:We'll see but if they are trading Spezza they need an established player coming back in some form.
Then we need to re-sign Spezza pretty much now. 5 years, 35 million so we can start getting serious. If we trade him as a pending UFA, we'll get a package like the Berglund, Rattie, 1st and that's that.
That first round pick is basically worth little in this draft.
It'd be worth nothing in this draft, because it'd be for 2015. Unless I'm wrong, then I apologize.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 6:44 pm
SpezDispenser wrote:NEELY wrote:Fair offer but you can get a better deal than that from Anaheim, Dallas, Phoenix, Nashville, and probably a few other teams. Anaheim has the 10th overall which could be a deal breaker, Dallar and Phoenix have a ton of prospects and roster players with potential and higher draft picks...
I wouldn't trade Spezza to St.Louis unless it was Oshie or better coming back to be honest, the idea is to make the Sens better, not to help the Blues.
As for St.Louis they can have all the hard working players who play 200 feet they want, they need a guy who can score and help others score. Oshie is a crowd favorite for sure but he's expendable in St.Louis in a big way. It's probably a good thing fans don't make decisions and they won't be making them in St.Louis either.
The only reason I could see this happening is because of what you stated, they have so many average offensively players who have 'heart' and too few actual offensive players, but that's a risky trade without Spezza agreeing to an extension.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 6:44 pmsandysensfan wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:sandysensfan wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:NEELY wrote:We'll see but if they are trading Spezza they need an established player coming back in some form.
Then we need to re-sign Spezza pretty much now. 5 years, 35 million so we can start getting serious. If we trade him as a pending UFA, we'll get a package like the Berglund, Rattie, 1st and that's that.
That first round pick is basically worth little in this draft.
It'd be worth nothing in this draft, because it'd be for 2015. Unless I'm wrong, then I apologize.
The 2015 first round pick of St Louis belongs to Buffalo from the Miller trade, I believe.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 6:48 pmsandysensfan wrote:
If St Louis is indeed his top, or near his top choice, there is a really good chance he re-signs there shortly after July 1st.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 6:53 pmSpezDispenser wrote:wprager wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:I also think Murray will further investigate the offers he got at the deadline for Greening. I don't know if we need a 4th liner making 2.65 as much as I like his speed and his hitting.
Tough one. Thornton and Richards were both 1st line centers an wore the C, but Thornton just signed a 3 year deal and Richards had an even longer one.
What?
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 8:31 pm
spader wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:NEELY wrote:We'll see but if they are trading Spezza they need an established player coming back in some form.
Then we need to re-sign Spezza pretty much now. 5 years, 35 million so we can start getting serious. If we trade him as a pending UFA, we'll get a package like the Berglund, Rattie, 1st and that's that.
Can anyone think of an example of a star player with only one year remaining getting traded? I'd love to compare similar situations.
Re: Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion Thu May 22, 2014 8:54 pmSpezDispenser wrote:wprager wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:I also think Murray will further investigate the offers he got at the deadline for Greening. I don't know if we need a 4th liner making 2.65 as much as I like his speed and his hitting.
Tough one. Thornton and Richards were both 1st line centers an wore the C, but Thornton just signed a 3 year deal and Richards had an even longer one.
What?
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