Trade Deadline BONANZA 2014

asq2 wrote:
Again I've had fun these last two years and I don't expect perfection. But it would be nice for this team to be honest with itself and its fans about where it is in the league, and to tell us what it's actually trying to do. Right now it seems like they're just killing time.

SpezDispenser wrote:I think it's possible Michalek goes to buffalo as well to even out cap - and the sabres re trade him by Wednesday.  Yet another asset - can't argue with Michalek being worth a little something to the sabres.

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I think it's possible Michalek goes to buffalo as well to even out cap - and the sabres re trade him by Wednesday.  Yet another asset - can't argue with Michalek being worth a little something to the sabres.

If you were Tim Murray, why would you take Michalek?

Ev wrote:Stewart is barely a power forward but would be a good add. People are going to hate him but whatever. He's not a true power forward but we need a guy like him

Oglethorpe wrote:Stewart would bring more speed to a team lacking pace.  He loves to shoot on the rush and while you will get frustrated by his lack of hitting for his size, he will get to the front of the net and he will drop the gloves.  Also at 26 he is at the age where power forwards start to find their game usually.  All in all he would be a great pickup for this particular team.  

asq2 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:That was the problem exactly.  We needed a veteran, minute eating presence on the back end this summer.  We had youth that needed to be served for sure, but our biggest need was a guy exactly like Dan Boyle.  It still is, no we get joe Corvo. Fantastic stuff.

Played a big factor in our disappointing year WITHOUT question.  None in my mind.  Gonchar meant more to this  team than most realized at the time - Murray included.

Cussing budget...

The thing that gets me is I just can't believe they don't recognize it. Which is why this buzz about adding a top-6 forward to me seems insulting as a fan. It's like they're refusing to admit to us what their actual problem is and trying to gloss it over with these rumours. As if we can't see what the real issue is (not that there is just one issue, of course).

Maybe it's because up until last season we were the only Canadian team showing real promise (as Vancouver was declining) and because of the (warranted) hype around Karlsson, but there's been weird rhetoric around the Sens as legitimate contenders when in reality we're a middling team. It seems like some people talk like it's still 2006 and we could use another top-6 guy to 'put us over the hump,' as if we were anywhere close to teams like the Ducks or Bruins or Sharks. We're not.

Stewart could be a nice addition, and depending on the price I think he's worth the risk. But he's not going to turn this team around. Either way - us hanging onto prospects or sending a few for Stewart - I don't think we have a clear direction. We're not aggressively trying to solve our current roster problems -- which, granted, is a tactic that can blow up in your face -- but nor are we giving the young kids a lot of playing time and looking towards the future.

Again I've had fun these last two years and I don't expect perfection. But it would be nice for this team to be honest with itself and its fans about where it is in the league, and to tell us what it's actually trying to do. Right now it seems like they're just killing time.

NEELY wrote:

Ev wrote:Stewart is barely a power forward but would be a good add. People are going to hate him but whatever. He's not a true power forward but we need a guy like him

Pretty much the definition of one, not sure what you are talking about here.  He's next to impossible to handle in front of the net... who scores those dirty goals for the Sens?  Pretty much no one.  Lots of guys to get the puck to the net, no one there to put it in.  75% of those goals come from a total of 5 feet from the crease.

Guy scores, fights, hits, can make a play, and he is a player the Sens are sorely lacking.  Prototypical PF if nothing else.  Like most goal scorers yah, he will be invisible at times but he is still good for 25 a year and around 50 points.  How many 25 goal, 100 PIM guys are there in the NHL?  I have trouble after Stewart.  Wayne Simmonds is one, Kassian could be... I sturggle after that.

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:Stewart would bring more speed to a team lacking pace.  He loves to shoot on the rush and while you will get frustrated by his lack of hitting for his size, he will get to the front of the net and he will drop the gloves.  Also at 26 he is at the age where power forwards start to find their game usually.  All in all he would be a great pickup for this particular team.  

Going hard after the body isn't the be all and end all for a power forward and certainly isn't a must.  This has to be the most overrated part of hockey, guys who go and hit anything, there's no need for it.  Yah, sometimes you need to rub a guy out, but you don't need to be a guy like Callahan who hits everything, or Borwn, etc.  Fact is that wears you down and if you are a goal scorer then not being healthy will kill production.

In Ottawa he will be the guy asked to score dirty goals (which he does), use some speed, and play a fairly responsible game (wingers don't need to be 100% defensively committed just solid).  

Also the guy can fight and he makes space for himself and with all skilled guys around him he's going to get even more of it.  Ottawa needs Stewart now and they need him for as long as he is productive because PF are next to impossible to draft and Ottawa has nothing like him coming up.

Fulcrum wrote:I would say poor defensive play is likely why Hitch and him didn't work.
I think he could really explode offensively in Ottawa as well under MacLeans system after being shackled in Hitchcocks system.

Ev wrote:

Fulcrum wrote:I would say poor defensive play is likely why Hitch and him didn't work.
I think he could really explode offensively in Ottawa as well under MacLeans system after being shackled in Hitchcocks system.

Maclean preaches defence before anything else though.

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:Stewart would bring more speed to a team lacking pace.  He loves to shoot on the rush and while you will get frustrated by his lack of hitting for his size, he will get to the front of the net and he will drop the gloves.  Also at 26 he is at the age where power forwards start to find their game usually.  All in all he would be a great pickup for this particular team.  

Going hard after the body isn't the be all and end all for a power forward and certainly isn't a must.  This has to be the most overrated part of hockey, guys who go and hit anything, there's no need for it.  Yah, sometimes you need to rub a guy out, but you don't need to be a guy like Callahan who hits everything, or Borwn, etc.  Fact is that wears you down and if you are a goal scorer then not being healthy will kill production.

In Ottawa he will be the guy asked to score dirty goals (which he does), use some speed, and play a fairly responsible game (wingers don't need to be 100% defensively committed just solid).  

Also the guy can fight and he makes space for himself and with all skilled guys around him he's going to get even more of it.  Ottawa needs Stewart now and they need him for as long as he is productive because PF are next to impossible to draft and Ottawa has nothing like him coming up.

You don't need to hit everything but he is considered kind of soft for a guy his size and definitively isn't known for much other than the goals.

Like I sad I would take him but there's a reason a guy like him was passed by multiple players in the depth chart and a guy like him is usually loved by a coach like hitch. Laziness and poor defensive play is probably the reason.