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Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:03 am
That game will be the game that determines how much patients the organization has, if the Sens come out and lose that one on 3 days rest, at home, against a "meh" team then the other foot will come down.SpezDispenser wrote:A 10 game assessment period starts Friday vs the Islanders. Need guys to start executing and making plays like they're capable.
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In response to your points:NEELY wrote:MacArthur has been fine IMO and fit in well with a 2nd line that is producing more than the first. You can't point to one thing in Ottawa right now and say "that's the problem", there are a few.Oglethorpe wrote:The most pressing issue is a solid 2nd pairing RH shot. Asking Cowen/Weircioch to handle the 2nd pairing was stupid.
Everytime SJ had a real good chance tonight it went in. At some point you need your goalie to make a save, it's definitely Lehner time.
Somehow we wound up with 3 proven top 6 forwards in Ryan, Turris, Spezza and a 4th potentially in Zib. Need to find another one soon somehow.
1. A RH shot, 2nd pairing D man who can move the puck and is mobile. IMO that could be Ceci or that could be a guy like Petry from Edmonton and I think that problem along with another that will be listed could be addressed via trade.
2. A RH shot for Spezza on the top line that has some skill. Again, could be fixed via trade with Edmonton in the right deal.
3. A 3rd line winger who can score 10-15 goals and be hell to play against. This at one time was Neil but he's obviously missing a step and this can't be held against a guy who has played a decade of heart and soul hockey for the Sens. This isn't such an easy fix because guys like that are not being given away, sadly the perfect player there might be Matt Cooke but he's been lights out for Minny at this point.
4. Secondary scoring... you are getting next to nothing from lines 3 and 4 right now and that has to change a little especially when your goalie lets in the first shot of the game 1/2 the time. This is going to have to be addressed from within and it might take sending Pageau down and bringing up a guy like Prince to play the wing and float around the lineup.
5. You goalie needs to stop the first shot of the game more than 50% of the time and honestly, you need to have a first period where they don't score a goal once in a while. Without looking the only game I think the Sens escaped a 1st period without a goal against was in Buffalo. This is a team problem to be sure but Anderson needs to make a damn save early to give the team a chance especially against the better teams like SJ and Ana.
Honestly, if you are looking for a big shake up at this point Edmonton is the answer. I think it's a little too early to be doing that but a trade like this might solve it.
Anderson/Cowen/Michalek for Eberel/Petry/Dubnyk and a 3rd. That would help the Sens become the puck possesion team they want, give Lehner the #1 job, make up for a 3rd rounder that was dealt (a little), and give the Sens a more mobile RH shot on the blueline, and helps Spezza in a big way. No way do I think this happens but this is a trade I would make if it was available.
The salary here is also within 1/2 a mil.
Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:28 am Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:31 am
Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:36 am Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:41 am
Took me a while to understand you point (initially I thought you just contradicted yourself, then I thought you use the wrong player names). Just in case anyone else was confused, the *current* play of Greening/Condra makes them easily replaceable. What we need is the 15-20 goal Greening and 1st PK unit Condra -- those ones are not easily replaceable.NEELY wrote:Condra has gotten away from the things that make him successful for sure, same with Greening. Those 2 need to step up because at this point they are very replaceable within the organization. Greening who scores 15-20 goals and Condra who is a 1st unit PKer are not though.
Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:42 am
is being given lots of games to "showcase" him. I don't mind the idea of an Anderson for Hemsky swap...... Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:43 amI've lost patience with some players already. I wanted Lehner in for the Sharks game. I thought for sure he'd start the second after those two 1st period goals. He left him in for all five -- almost like a statement of some sort. Lehner better get a string of starts *now*.NEELY wrote:That game will be the game that determines how much patients the organization has, if the Sens come out and lose that one on 3 days rest, at home, against a "meh" team then the other foot will come down.SpezDispenser wrote:A 10 game assessment period starts Friday vs the Islanders. Need guys to start executing and making plays like they're capable.
Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:44 amJust like he supercharged the Sabres, who have a better goalie.shabbs wrote:The all new supercharged Vanek-Islanders....
Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:46 amI think it would be Dubynk coming back for 2 reasons... 1. cash in cash out, 2. They would have given up on Dubynk at that point. I would also think Gryba would need to be thrown into that deal to make it work.Oglethorpe wrote:Maybe an Anderson and Michalek for Hemsky Labarbarra and Petry?
Just an idea.
Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:46 am Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:46 amWe've played some bad hockey, though. Remember the Buffalo game? The Sabres outplayed us from start to finish (Anderson was making the more difficult saves even in the 1st). We lost to the Oilers.SpezDispenser wrote:Vanek can't save them from being pretty average though. They're good, but nothing like the behemoths we've been playing. #makeitstop
Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:47 am Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:52 amI agree, we're probably a little quick on the draw here. I don't think too many of us would be freaking out if the Sens had actually played WELL in the majority of games so far. We could have the identical record we do now, but if we had some sort of consistent effort, we'd be a lot calmer. The problem now is too many guys look "comfortable". I'd say that Ryan, Z-Bad, Turris, and Neil are the forwards who actually look to be putting up consistent efforts.SpezDispenser wrote:I mind that quite a bit. We're so quick to jettison guys here
Re: GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013 Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:53 amWhy are you demoting Mac? He's been very good, lately, and all those chances he's generating will start going in soon.tim1_2 wrote:I actually think Condra's been pretty normal lately, complete with total inability to generate anything resembling offense.
I suggest new lines:
Conacher-Spezza-ZBad
Greening-Turris-Ryan
MacArthur-Grant-Condra
Michalek-Smith-Neil
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