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Flo The Action wrote: I think if we're to make an impact we'd need a C now though... it's the price attached to that that scares me. it would start with Zib and then attach 2 other pieces... possibly ceci and another. do we really want to part with any of those? personally not...

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Spezza says he's ok, it's MacLean that says they might shut it down to heal.  I'd say the player wins out on this one everytime.  So we're likely to see Spez.

Spezza says he wants to play but is using it as an excuse for his poor skating...?  

Is he using it as an excuse?  I think he just wants to be the Captain who doesn't let his team down - and he'll get his way.  We'll see tonight (if he plays) whether that ends up being a reversed selfish decision or not.  

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:this is a big IF but IF spezza is to be plagued with constant back injuries again this season they will have to adress the number 1C position. I'm not comfortable with turris in that slot and Zib isn't ready or might never be either... we haven't smpled SDC in that spot but it reminds me of desharnais in MTL. could work but isn't optimal... damn, i'd hate to lose anymore assets to aquire a number 1c. they aren't cheap at all if available at all.

There is no reason why Turris from here on out can't be a Bergereon type center who scores 50-60 points a year and is a stud everywhere else.  Those players are just as valuable as guys like Thornton or Sedin, maybe more so.  That said, I agree with your point of the Sens going out and looking for another center who can score if this turns out to be a long term thing.  You can win with depth down the middle as opposed to having one center who puts up monster numbers.  Hasn't worked for Ottawa, San Jose, Vancouver, or Philly yet.  The teams that have won, Boston, Chicago, LA, Det (Pitt is a different animal), all teams with depth and without a guy that will ever win the scoring race or be in the convo.  

Spezza hasn't missed a game yet and missing 1 game in an 82 game season isn't a big deal so everyone should wait until the end of this road trip to really make any kind of judgement but it's concerning no matter what.  

ya I guess i'm basing my conclusions on how well Turris fared last year in that top C role. we are way deeper then we were last year down the middle, well at least more experienced. I guess i buy into the idea that a good team needs a big 1C guy and Turris in my mind isn't there yet. he's put on weight this summer but can he keep it on? on TSN he's still listed bellow 200. maybe he's not far off from being that guy. school has kept me unable to watch the games so far. maybe if Turris can handle the #1 duties then one day Zib can the handle the 2C. I think if we're to make an impact we'd need a C now though... it's the price attached to that that scares me. it would start with Zib and then attach 2 other pieces... possibly ceci and another. do we really want to part with any of those? personally not...

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Spezza says he's ok, it's MacLean that says they might shut it down to heal.  I'd say the player wins out on this one everytime.  So we're likely to see Spez.

Spezza says he wants to play but is using it as an excuse for his poor skating...?  

Is he using it as an excuse?  I think he just wants to be the Captain who doesn't let his team down - and he'll get his way.  We'll see tonight (if he plays) whether that ends up being a reversed selfish decision or not.  

"It's hindered my skating the first couple of games," said Spezza. "It felt better (Tuesday). I skated better. It has definitely hindered me a little bit but I still thought I was able to get up and down the ice all right.

Play through it and shut up or sit out and heal it.  Simple as that.  He's been captain for a month and this kind of crap has already started from the injury to his excuses.  

tim1_2 wrote:

Flo The Action wrote: I think if we're to make an impact we'd need a C now though... it's the price attached to that that scares me. it would start with Zib and then attach 2 other pieces... possibly ceci and another. do we really want to part with any of those? personally not...

Whoa whoa whoa....we ain't trading for anybody anytime soon.  Spezza is questionable for the game tonight...not questionable for the rest of the season, not yet.  If this turns into something that the Sens predict will be a season-long issue, then maybe they make a deal for an under-valued centre with a reasonable contract...like a Brassard or a Goc.  No chance they make a big splash via trade for a legit #1 centre.

Flo The Action wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

Flo The Action wrote: I think if we're to make an impact we'd need a C now though... it's the price attached to that that scares me. it would start with Zib and then attach 2 other pieces... possibly ceci and another. do we really want to part with any of those? personally not...

Whoa whoa whoa....we ain't trading for anybody anytime soon.  Spezza is questionable for the game tonight...not questionable for the rest of the season, not yet.  If this turns into something that the Sens predict will be a season-long issue, then maybe they make a deal for an under-valued centre with a reasonable contract...like a Brassard or a Goc.  No chance they make a big splash via trade for a legit #1 centre.

no this was a point made if we were to lose spezza long term due to injuries.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Spezza says he's ok, it's MacLean that says they might shut it down to heal.  I'd say the player wins out on this one everytime.  So we're likely to see Spez.

Spezza says he wants to play but is using it as an excuse for his poor skating...?  

Is he using it as an excuse?  I think he just wants to be the Captain who doesn't let his team down - and he'll get his way.  We'll see tonight (if he plays) whether that ends up being a reversed selfish decision or not.  

"It's hindered my skating the first couple of games," said Spezza. "It felt better (Tuesday). I skated better. It has definitely hindered me a little bit but I still thought I was able to get up and down the ice all right.

Play through it and shut up or sit out and heal it.  Simple as that.  He's been captain for a month and this kind of crap has already started from the injury to his excuses.  

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Spezza says he's ok, it's MacLean that says they might shut it down to heal.  I'd say the player wins out on this one everytime.  So we're likely to see Spez.

Spezza says he wants to play but is using it as an excuse for his poor skating...?  

Is he using it as an excuse?  I think he just wants to be the Captain who doesn't let his team down - and he'll get his way.  We'll see tonight (if he plays) whether that ends up being a reversed selfish decision or not.  

"It's hindered my skating the first couple of games," said Spezza. "It felt better (Tuesday). I skated better. It has definitely hindered me a little bit but I still thought I was able to get up and down the ice all right.

Play through it and shut up or sit out and heal it.  Simple as that.  He's been captain for a month and this kind of crap has already started from the injury to his excuses.  

We get it, you hate Spezza.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Spezza says he's ok, it's MacLean that says they might shut it down to heal.  I'd say the player wins out on this one everytime.  So we're likely to see Spez.

Spezza says he wants to play but is using it as an excuse for his poor skating...?  

Is he using it as an excuse?  I think he just wants to be the Captain who doesn't let his team down - and he'll get his way.  We'll see tonight (if he plays) whether that ends up being a reversed selfish decision or not.  

"It's hindered my skating the first couple of games," said Spezza. "It felt better (Tuesday). I skated better. It has definitely hindered me a little bit but I still thought I was able to get up and down the ice all right.

Play through it and shut up or sit out and heal it.  Simple as that.  He's been captain for a month and this kind of crap has already started from the injury to his excuses.  

I don't mind him saying that, but at this exact point he needs to realize that he's a lot more use getting 100% healed than playing where 'it's hindered' his skating.  I get it both ways, he wants to be a part of the team, he's sick of not being a part of the team, he wants to be a good Captain and lead by example, but he's clearly not ready to play at the NHL level yet.

Also, colour me relieved that his groin was bothering his skating, because a couple of plays I thought he was quitting on the play and was quite worried that our Captain had reverted back to Jason Spezza of old.

Ev wrote:If spezza plays it is the teams choice.

Ev wrote:If spezza plays it is the teams choice.

SpezDispenser wrote:I would agree.  Sit out and let the other players handle it.  We need him at 100%.  Although saying he can't play through it isn't exactly accurate.  He scored a massive goal vs the Leafs.  Probably should have been the game winner had we not have played a poor team defence.  

NEELY wrote:
I never go on twitter and never will.  Like i said the other day, don't need to be the first to hear the news I just need to hear it at some point.  An hour late won't make a lick of difference.