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361Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! - Page 25 Empty Re: Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:49 am

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I guess I posted really late. You guys already said all this!
Better late than never, old friend.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I am actually very happy with this move. Zib was outplayed this training camp by not 2 but 3 players and the organization rewarded the harder working players. Sending him down really sends a message to him and the organization as a whole. It also makes sense as Ottawa wants to develop Zib as a center and there's no room in their top-six right now. In Bingo, he gets an opportunity to center the top line composed of high-potential prospects rather than being tested on the wings or centering a fourth line given his camp. I think it's beneficial for everyone that he start the season down there.

People are reading into this too much though. On the business side, Zib is on a two-way and the Sens did not want to lose Da Costa on waivers for nothing. I am assuming BM tries to work out a deal early in the season to trade some depth for picks so Zib and maybe Stone have a chance to crack the roster at some point. Also given our injury history, Zib will likely be back up within a matter of weeks (knock on wood).

I am not sure how they plan on using Pageau/Da Costa though. Did Pageau earn himself 3rd line duties? If so, Da Costa on the fourth doesn't make sense to me...

Michalek- Spezza- Ryan
MacArthur-Turris- Conacher
Greening- Pageau- Condra
Smith- Da Costa- Neil
I think Da Costa will be on the third line with Pageau and Condra will see 4th line duty. The other wild card is Conacher. If he doesn't start producing he'll find himself in the press box in short order because he's not a good fit for 3rd or 4th line duty

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Very true. I know he was scratched a few games down the stretch but I really like his game (minus the penalties). He can score, he wins battles, he's got good offensive vision, and players love picking on him because he's small. Hopefully the penalties he took last year translate to the penalties he'll draw this year.

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I am actually very happy with this move. Zib was outplayed this training camp by not 2 but 3 players and the organization rewarded the harder working players. Sending him down really sends a message to him and the organization as a whole. It also makes sense as Ottawa wants to develop Zib as a center and there's no room in their top-six right now. In Bingo, he gets an opportunity to center the top line composed of high-potential prospects rather than being tested on the wings or centering a fourth line given his camp. I think it's beneficial for everyone that he start the season down there.

People are reading into this too much though. On the business side, Zib is on a two-way and the Sens did not want to lose Da Costa on waivers for nothing. I am assuming BM tries to work out a deal early in the season to trade some depth for picks so Zib and maybe Stone have a chance to crack the roster at some point. Also given our injury history, Zib will likely be back up within a matter of weeks (knock on wood).

I am not sure how they plan on using Pageau/Da Costa though. Did Pageau earn himself 3rd line duties? If so, Da Costa on the fourth doesn't make sense to me...

Michalek- Spezza- Ryan
MacArthur-Turris- Conacher
Greening- Pageau- Condra
Smith- Da Costa- Neil
I think Da Costa will be on the third line with Pageau and Condra will see 4th line duty. The other wild card is Conacher. If he doesn't start producing he'll find himself in the press box in short order because he's not a good fit for 3rd or 4th line duty
Da Costa is on the 4th with Smith and Neil. This will be how it lines up on Friday.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Very true. I know he was scratched a few games down the stretch but I really like his game (minus the penalties). He can score, he wins battles, he's got good offensive vision, and players love picking on him because he's small. Hopefully the penalties he took last year translate to the penalties he'll draw this year.
It's only the diving and lazy penalties that have to go, other than that he's looked fantastic.  Might be our top forward prospect outside of Z-Bad and now Pageau.

EDIT: and maybe Lazar I guess.

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I'm interested in seeing the top-six in Bingo mainly Prince, Puempel, Stone, Zib, Hoffman, Petersson. I imagine Bingo is primed for another run this year if NHL Sens stay healthy.

I also think Murray gets a first round pick back at some point given the competition and depth.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Brent Wallace ‏@tsn_wally 2m
Sens lines: Michalek Spezza Ryan; MacArthur Turris Conacher; Smith DaCosta Neil; Condra Pageau Greening   Kassian as extra forward

Steve Lloyd ‏@TSNSteveLloyd 1m
Methot-Karlsson, Cowen-Wiercioch, Phillips-Corvo. Gryba extra. #Sens D
Why is Pageau getting the Z-Bad treatment? And what is a creative center like Da Costa going to do with Smith and Neil to dish the puck? Not crazy about those lines.


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Someone has to play with Smith and Neil.

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wprager wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Brent Wallace ‏@tsn_wally 2m
Sens lines: Michalek Spezza Ryan; MacArthur Turris Conacher; Smith DaCosta Neil; Condra Pageau Greening   Kassian as extra forward

Steve Lloyd ‏@TSNSteveLloyd 1m
Methot-Karlsson, Cowen-Wiercioch, Phillips-Corvo. Gryba extra. #Sens D
Why is Pageau getting the Z-Bad treatment? And what is a creative center like Da Costa going to do with Smith and Neil to dish the puck? Not crazy about those lines.
There's no other Cussing choice at this point! These lines should surprise absolutely nobody. We knew the top line was going to be the Big Three. We've known the second line for about a month...so it's just the bottom two lines that'll be fiddled with at this point. ZERO SURPRISES.

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Like wtf? How are people complaining about Pageau playing between Greening and Condra? Where else would he go? They have their lines set how they want. Amazing how people just straight up question the Jack Adams winner from just last year, lol.

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Not sure if Karlsson was serious, but Mendes asked him how he got so big in the arm area and he said because he walked on his arms all off-season to let his Achilles heal. I assume he was kidding, but apparently he's quite jacked now.

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He's at the age where you start putting on serious weight and muscle if diet and lifestyle allow it. Karlsson will be playing the game at around 195-200 lbs when all is said and done.

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tim1_2 wrote:
wprager wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Brent Wallace ‏@tsn_wally 2m
Sens lines: Michalek Spezza Ryan; MacArthur Turris Conacher; Smith DaCosta Neil; Condra Pageau Greening   Kassian as extra forward

Steve Lloyd ‏@TSNSteveLloyd 1m
Methot-Karlsson, Cowen-Wiercioch, Phillips-Corvo. Gryba extra. #Sens D
Why is Pageau getting the Z-Bad treatment?  And what is a creative center like Da Costa going to do with Smith and Neil to dish the puck?  Not crazy about those lines.
There's no other Cussing choice at this point!  These lines should surprise absolutely nobody.  We knew the top line was going to be the Big Three.  We've known the second line for about a month...so it's just the bottom two lines that'll be fiddled with at this point.  ZERO SURPRISES.
Why are people complaining? Because our 4th line center is too good for 4th line duties? Neil is also too good to be a 4th liner and Smith is too good a center to be playing on the wing on the 4th line.

Ottawa has three legit lines and a fourth line that can grind out goals and create offensive chances. For games where Kassian is dressed, scratch Da Costa and slide Smith to the middle between Kassian and Neil. That line instantly turns from a hybrid line to an energy line, and the toughness Da Costa doesn't bring is completely addressed. I'd imagine they do the same with Corvo and Gryba.

If people are worried about team toughness Neil, Kassian, Gryba, Smith, Greening, Methot, and Cowen can all fight. So can Lehner.

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I dunno, i could easily see SDC centering for pageau on the wing and greening while smith down the center with condra and neil on each sides. to me that gives you a third scoring line and one hell of 4rth checking line.

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karlsson is a moron lol

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Hoags wrote:Someone has to play with Smith and Neil.
I'd put one of Pageau or Da Costa on the wing and make a scoring third line and an energy/checking 4th line. Smith and Neil and Condra can pay with themselves.


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NEELY wrote:Like wtf?  How are people complaining about Pageau playing between Greening and Condra?  Where else would he go?  They have their lines set how they want.  Amazing how people just straight up question the Jack Adams winner from just last year, lol.
If by "people" you mean me, why don't you call me out to my face. You spout your opinions here like they were the Ten Commandments passed down from God. I can have my opinions as well. Are you sure you've agreed with every single thing Mac has done?


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NEELY wrote:He's at the age where you start putting on serious weight and muscle if diet and lifestyle allow it.  Karlsson will be playing the game at around 195-200 lbs when all is said and done.
If by "diet" you mean "steroids" then, yeah, he's at that age.


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