Senators placed on NHL watch list - the story continues

wprager wrote:Madely had Jim Watson on this morning.  I think he let him off easy.  At one point Watson was saying how Melnyk has asked for -- and received -- preferential tax rates; maybe Madely should have brought up the overpass/interchange fiasco -- it wasn't on Melnyk's watch, but the city refused to build/service the overpass and interchange, but when it was built they re-assessed the value of the arena and increased the taxes.  Shameful behavior from the city.  Then Watson mentioned how Edmonton is ponying up $300-400M for a new arena for the Oilers, and how he himself is not in favor of using public money (tax revenues) like that -- I think Madely should have, at that point, asked him how the RCR renovations will be funded, including widening of the access road, and whether the property will be re-assessed to raise taxes.

I am so fed up with Ottawa City Council and the current mayor.  

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Madely had Jim Watson on this morning.  I think he let him off easy.  At one point Watson was saying how Melnyk has asked for -- and received -- preferential tax rates; maybe Madely should have brought up the overpass/interchange fiasco -- it wasn't on Melnyk's watch, but the city refused to build/service the overpass and interchange, but when it was built they re-assessed the value of the arena and increased the taxes.  Shameful behavior from the city.  Then Watson mentioned how Edmonton is ponying up $300-400M for a new arena for the Oilers, and how he himself is not in favor of using public money (tax revenues) like that -- I think Madely should have, at that point, asked him how the RCR renovations will be funded, including widening of the access road, and whether the property will be re-assessed to raise taxes.

I am so fed up with Ottawa City Council and the current mayor.  

This is why Ottawa has been such a low-rent minor-league City for so long. No vision whatsoever. The Gene should have incorporated something related to bicycles in his plan. That would have gotten an immediate rubber-stamp.

tim1_2 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Madely had Jim Watson on this morning.  I think he let him off easy.  At one point Watson was saying how Melnyk has asked for -- and received -- preferential tax rates; maybe Madely should have brought up the overpass/interchange fiasco -- it wasn't on Melnyk's watch, but the city refused to build/service the overpass and interchange, but when it was built they re-assessed the value of the arena and increased the taxes.  Shameful behavior from the city.  Then Watson mentioned how Edmonton is ponying up $300-400M for a new arena for the Oilers, and how he himself is not in favor of using public money (tax revenues) like that -- I think Madely should have, at that point, asked him how the RCR renovations will be funded, including widening of the access road, and whether the property will be re-assessed to raise taxes.

I am so fed up with Ottawa City Council and the current mayor.  

This is why Ottawa has been such a low-rent minor-league City for so long. No vision whatsoever. The Gene should have incorporated something related to bicycles in his plan. That would have gotten an immediate rubber-stamp.

Maybe The Euge can offer to put one of those rent-a-bike things next to the new casino at SBP.  

wprager wrote:Madely had Jim Watson on this morning.  I think he let him off easy.  At one point Watson was saying how Melnyk has asked for -- and received -- preferential tax rates; maybe Madely should have brought up the overpass/interchange fiasco -- it wasn't on Melnyk's watch, but the city refused to build/service the overpass and interchange, but when it was built they re-assessed the value of the arena and increased the taxes.  Shameful behavior from the city.  Then Watson mentioned how Edmonton is ponying up $300-400M for a new arena for the Oilers, and how he himself is not in favor of using public money (tax revenues) like that -- I think Madely should have, at that point, asked him how the RCR renovations will be funded, including widening of the access road, and whether the property will be re-assessed to raise taxes.

I am so fed up with Ottawa City Council and the current mayor.  

NEELY wrote:

wprager wrote:Madely had Jim Watson on this morning.  I think he let him off easy.  At one point Watson was saying how Melnyk has asked for -- and received -- preferential tax rates; maybe Madely should have brought up the overpass/interchange fiasco -- it wasn't on Melnyk's watch, but the city refused to build/service the overpass and interchange, but when it was built they re-assessed the value of the arena and increased the taxes.  Shameful behavior from the city.  Then Watson mentioned how Edmonton is ponying up $300-400M for a new arena for the Oilers, and how he himself is not in favor of using public money (tax revenues) like that -- I think Madely should have, at that point, asked him how the RCR renovations will be funded, including widening of the access road, and whether the property will be re-assessed to raise taxes.

I am so fed up with Ottawa City Council and the current mayor.  

You and everyone else.

You can't pay for an overpass but you can pay someone for consulting fees to see what effect the overpass will have.

Michallica wrote:I just got a kick out of looking at the whereabouts of RCR on google maps street view.  Way to go city council!

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&gl=ca&authuser=0&q=rideau%20carleton%20raceway&um=1&biw=1224&bih=708&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

NEELY wrote:

Michallica wrote:I just got a kick out of looking at the whereabouts of RCR on google maps street view.  Way to go city council!

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&gl=ca&authuser=0&q=rideau%20carleton%20raceway&um=1&biw=1224&bih=708&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

I'm not pissed off about the location of it.  It suits some and it doesn't suit others.  The biggest problem is the fact they are not developing anything to attract business, improve the economy both regionally and on a municipal level, and it's just going to be the same thing it is now with 21 gaming tables all of which will be 5 dollar minimum bets without any kind of real atmosphere to drive people to RCR.  Why even do it if that's what the plan is. Calling it a casino is an absolute lie too.

All they are trying to do is save harness racing which is a complete joke outside of some very select locations around North America for a select few people in the city or around it.  

It's garbage and again, it's Watson pocketing cash on the side along with some other councilors for this favour.  No surprise though.

tim1_2 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Madely had Jim Watson on this morning.  I think he let him off easy.  At one point Watson was saying how Melnyk has asked for -- and received -- preferential tax rates; maybe Madely should have brought up the overpass/interchange fiasco -- it wasn't on Melnyk's watch, but the city refused to build/service the overpass and interchange, but when it was built they re-assessed the value of the arena and increased the taxes.  Shameful behavior from the city.  Then Watson mentioned how Edmonton is ponying up $300-400M for a new arena for the Oilers, and how he himself is not in favor of using public money (tax revenues) like that -- I think Madely should have, at that point, asked him how the RCR renovations will be funded, including widening of the access road, and whether the property will be re-assessed to raise taxes.

I am so fed up with Ottawa City Council and the current mayor.  

This is why Ottawa has been such a low-rent minor-league City for so long. No vision whatsoever. The Gene should have incorporated something related to bicycles in his plan. That would have gotten an immediate rubber-stamp.

Maybe The Euge can offer to put one of those rent-a-bike things next to the new casino at SBP.  

Michallica wrote:I just got a kick out of looking at the whereabouts of RCR on google maps street view.  Way to go city council!

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&gl=ca&authuser=0&q=rideau%20carleton%20raceway&um=1&biw=1224&bih=708&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

NEELY wrote:Makes sense for people in the south end of the city (where the city is really expanding now) and the people in the East end as well especially once the Hunt Club exit is good to go off the 417.  The location makes sense, at least as much as any place else other than DT but what they are doing to it is a joke.  

Michallica wrote:

NEELY wrote:Makes sense for people in the south end of the city (where the city is really expanding now) and the people in the East end as well especially once the Hunt Club exit is good to go off the 417.  The location makes sense, at least as much as any place else other than DT but what they are doing to it is a joke.  

The location doesn't make sense to me though.  You want to talk about general location, fine but the raceway is literally middle of nowhere. It's a drag going out there, there's little to no civilzation around there except a few homes.  Why the city of Ottawa wants that land to be their one and only casino is beyond me, but yeah it's some politics all right.

wprager wrote:

Michallica wrote:I just got a kick out of looking at the whereabouts of RCR on google maps street view.  Way to go city council!

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&gl=ca&authuser=0&q=rideau%20carleton%20raceway&um=1&biw=1224&bih=708&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

Driving directions from Sussex street: 27 minutes (using the Airport Parkway) to RCR versus 25 minutes to CTC.  I suppose it makes sense for people flying into Ottawa.

The Euge should build an airport.  Direct flights to the Carp Casino.  Has a ring to it.

Michallica wrote:

NEELY wrote:Makes sense for people in the south end of the city (where the city is really expanding now) and the people in the East end as well especially once the Hunt Club exit is good to go off the 417.  The location makes sense, at least as much as any place else other than DT but what they are doing to it is a joke.  

The location doesn't make sense to me though.  You want to talk about general location, fine but the raceway is literally middle of nowhere. It's a drag going out there, there's little to no civilzation around there except a few homes.  Why the city of Ottawa wants that land to be their one and only casino is beyond me, but yeah it's some politics all right.

Michallica wrote:

wprager wrote:

Michallica wrote:I just got a kick out of looking at the whereabouts of RCR on google maps street view.  Way to go city council!

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&gl=ca&authuser=0&q=rideau%20carleton%20raceway&um=1&biw=1224&bih=708&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

Driving directions from Sussex street: 27 minutes (using the Airport Parkway) to RCR versus 25 minutes to CTC.  I suppose it makes sense for people flying into Ottawa.

The Euge should build an airport.  Direct flights to the Carp Casino.  Has a ring to it.

lac leamy will always be more visually appealing and it's bigger and flat out better as well.  Dumb move by city council and i hope melnyk also sues their asses