So long Alfie... What's next?

tim1_2 wrote:

Ev wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2013/07/07/sp-nhl-friedman-daniel-alfredsson-ottawa-senators-negotiations.html

"He always took less than market value. Always."

OK, doesn't mean he needs to take more than market value now. Guy's been making millions for 17 years.

I dunno, if I were him I would've wanted a little extra cash.  We offered $4Mish, he originally asked for $6Mish.  If we weren't a budget team, I bet we pay that $6M (or come back and offer $5.5M) and be done with it.

Read Friedman's article, linked above.  It's excellent.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/hockey/internationellt/nhl/article17096434.ab

I really like Boston. But the reason why it became Detroit was because I got a really good impression of them. And they had many left handed centers in the team. I think that as a right-handed player I will fit in better. I will probably get more chances to shoot and scoring opportunities next season.

Really, he cares about scoring more goals.

The way Chiarelli describes it they all but had Alfie until Iggy came calling.  Alfie became option B in a hurry.

Shawn Simpson says that no one will even know who Alfredsson is in Detroit. Amazing!

SeawaySensFan wrote:

NEELY wrote:Except 1/2 of Alfie's goals come on the off wing where it's easier for a righty to get him the puck.  Honestly, has Alfie always been this thick or did people in Ottawa and Sens fans have such high opinions of the guy we couldn't see this kind of stuff?  Maybe it's best he isn't in Ottawa anymore actually, there has been nothing to come out in the last few days that makes me say "well, I can see his side of things".

Alfie screwed up really bad here, like epically.  Only thing that will ever help him save face is for the Wings to win the cup and they are a long shot at this point to do it.  A lineup that old up front playing in a division where they may have to fight every single night... esh, they are going to be forced to play a game that they do not like playing on a lot of nights.

I think he's just trying to add reasons for leaving after the fact.

tim1_2 wrote:If he REALLY cared about money, he would've been out of here long ago.  But there's only so many times a guy can take a discount before it irks him.  It was not extremely selfish, it was an insult by our team.

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

Ev wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/story/2013/07/07/sp-nhl-friedman-daniel-alfredsson-ottawa-senators-negotiations.html

"He always took less than market value. Always."

OK, doesn't mean he needs to take more than market value now. Guy's been making millions for 17 years.

I dunno, if I were him I would've wanted a little extra cash.  We offered $4Mish, he originally asked for $6Mish.  If we weren't a budget team, I bet we pay that $6M (or come back and offer $5.5M) and be done with it.

Read Friedman's article, linked above.  It's excellent.

He was making $1M in his last year.  They offered to renegotiate, but he didn't know if he'd be returning or not.  

They bought out his last contract and renegotiated because he was being underpaid.  I don't know how much of that was Melnyk trying to correct the past or Alfie/J.P. but it got done.  

tim1_2 wrote:If he REALLY cared about money, he would've been out of here long ago.  But there's only so many times a guy can take a discount before it irks him.  It was not extremely selfish, it was an insult by our team.

Michallica wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:If he REALLY cared about money, he would've been out of here long ago.  But there's only so many times a guy can take a discount before it irks him.  It was not extremely selfish, it was an insult by our team.

It was a matter of pride and nothing to do with money or stanley cup.  Simple as that.  Sens took him for granted and paid the price.  I sincerely hope they've learned a valuable lesson on how to deal with longtime players.

Ev wrote:When did he demand a trade?

Ev wrote:When did he demand a trade?

Michallica wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:If he REALLY cared about money, he would've been out of here long ago.  But there's only so many times a guy can take a discount before it irks him.  It was not extremely selfish, it was an insult by our team.

It was a matter of pride and nothing to do with money or stanley cup.  Simple as that.  Sens took him for granted and paid the price.  I sincerely hope they've learned a valuable lesson on how to deal with longtime players.

NEELY wrote:Except 1/2 of Alfie's goals come on the off wing where it's easier for a righty to get him the puck.  Honestly, has Alfie always been this thick or did people in Ottawa and Sens fans have such high opinions of the guy we couldn't see this kind of stuff?  Maybe it's best he isn't in Ottawa anymore actually, there has been nothing to come out in the last few days that makes me say "well, I can see his side of things".

Alfie screwed up really bad here, like epically.  Only thing that will ever help him save face is for the Wings to win the cup and they are a long shot at this point to do it.  A lineup that old up front playing in a division where they may have to fight every single night... esh, they are going to be forced to play a game that they do not like playing on a lot of nights.