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M_Christopher


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Back for Day 2;

Quick note: Congrats to Lazar, Hogberg and Shore for their invites to their respective World Jr. Programs (Sweden, Canada, America)

I apologize if anything comes across redundant, but it is a training camp.

Managed to get updates on the two players absent from camp despite being on the camp roster, both updates I put on twitter early.

Jakub Culek – Will miss camp after having shoulder surgery apparently.

Chris Driedger – As per one of the Sens brass (not exactly sure his name), Driedger is out with a “very very very very very minor, and I mean very very minor injury.” His words not mine. So Driedger is just being sat as a precaution at the moment.

Maiden and Stone skated alone again today; Stone is still recovering from a high ankle sprain.

Cody Ceci – I was very unimpressed yesterday, and to be honest the day didn’t start better for Ceci. That being said, Ceci showed off some strong back-skating and did look more comfortable. More importantly when scrimmages started Ceci came alive, so I’ll just assume Ceci is just a lousy drills guy, but very capable when it’s time to play. Looked strong battling in front of the net, and had a couple good hits during scrimmage.

Ryan Dzingel - Has decent acceleration and a high compete level. Didn’t see much of him today beyond that.

Curtis Lazar – Didn’t watch much of him today. His wrist shot is powerful though. He spent a lot of his time on the far end of the ice.

Fredrik Claesson – Another good day for Claesson. He is very strong 1-on-1 and in front of his net. His skating is what really makes him standout, considering that was the big knock on him in the past. Very smooth transition from forecheck to backcheck.

Marcus Hogberg – Oh boy he is fun to watch. He is very hard to beat low, and has a very strong scramble. Hogberg seems like he has great vision and at times looked unbeatable. He is very sound positionally, and will be a force once he fills out. He’s worth watching if you go to the camp.

Buddy Robinson – Again very impressive skating for a guy his size. Struggled to receive passes a bit, but then showed up some slick hands when in tight. Definitely looks like a great option parked in front of the net.

Jeff Costello – Looks well rounded, and average in all situations so far. Did display a couple real nice snipes, and has a fairly consistent, accuracy-wise, shot.

Tobias Lindberg – Looked much more comfortable today, displaying very smooth side-to-side movement and better skating. Was strong 1-on-1 and elusive/creative with puck, similar to Patrick Kane’s style of dekeing.

Chris Leblanc – Seems like a lunchpail type forward, he has done nothing flashy or particularly special, however I always notice when he’s active in drills; Just something about him.

Quentin Shore – Had a tough start today, fell a few times and skating seemed off – may just be an equipment issue. Despite the issues, he has a very high compete level and was strong with his defensive play.

Tim Boyle – Only note I have on him, is that he needs to fill out and get stronger, which will come in time.

Matt Puempel – Was very streaky today, which is weird to say about a player at camp. One minute he was dominate and take deadly snipes on net, the next minute completely outmatched by other prospects.

Michael Sdao – Very physical today, and was enjoying every minute of the scrimmage for the sole purpose of hitting others. Good to see another D-man with a physical edge. Another guy I need to watch more of.

Shane Prince – Was sluggish to start the afternoon, but like Ceci, turned up his effort level once the scrimmages started. Looked like he tweaked his ankle mid-afternoon but stayed on and kept playing.

Vince Dunn – Had lots of 1-on-1 on ice-coaching, which is only odd until you find out he’s only 17. Need to watch more of him, but conditioning seemed off today.

J.G. Pageau – Not much more needs to be said about Pageau. Far and away the fastest guy at camp in my opinion, and he absolutely owned Claesson 1-on-1.

Cole Schneider – Among one of the guys to impress Sens brass so far, Schneider has apparently had a strong camp so far. Didn’t see much of him until the scrimmages, where he clearly hurt his groin. He was wincing in pain and favoring his left side, but managed to continue with the drills. I thought it was odd no coaching staff went aside to check on him.

On-Ice Workouts

Just a few unorganized notes from the Sens On-Ice Workouts (Resistance training, Puckhandling, balance training etc…)

Ceci and Noesen are very strong back-skaters. Ceci in just pure strength and Noesen looked like he was exploding from the boards.

Puempel, while not explosive or dominant at back-skating, was very smooth at it. Looked very effortless.

Lindberg – Needs to get stronger, but has a very good initial stride both ways.

Buddy Robinson continues to impress me. He is a very smooth all-around skater.

Dzingel has a deceivingly quick 3 steps.

Lazar didn’t look explosive in any skating drill, but was smooth all around in them.

Harpur – Strong legs and very good balance to go with it.

Robinson and DaSilva paired off to do the various workstations together, and they look like monsters together. Robinson looks bigger than DaSilva, who is listed at 6’6” 230.

Lingdberg and Zibanejad paired off for drills, seems like the coaching staff wants this mentorship to go all camp.

Lazar had a coach/trainer with him at ever drill/activity talking him through everything and working with him 1-on-1. Clear the Sens organization want to maximize Lazar’s camp experience. Erkamps was Lazar’s partner, so he was the beneficiary of extra coaching to.

Day 3 goes tomorrow. I’ll be back again.

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Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:10 pm by rooneypoo

wprager wrote:Noesen doesn't waste time, does he:

Anaheim Ducks ‏@AnaheimDucks

The White team wins the shootout, 2-1. Noesen and Theodore with the goals for White. Thompson had the only score for Black team.

Ugh, Noesen and Silfverberg. I'm excited to have Ryan here and there's no question that something like this had to be done, especially after Alfie walked, but man we paid a steep price. Both those guys could be top 6 players putting up 50+ points a year, and in relatively short order.

Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:24 pm by tim1_2

rooneypoo wrote:
wprager wrote:Noesen doesn't waste time, does he:

Anaheim Ducks ‏@AnaheimDucks

The White team wins the shootout, 2-1. Noesen and Theodore with the goals for White. Thompson had the only score for Black team.

Ugh, Noesen and Silfverberg. I'm excited to have Ryan here and there's no question that something like this had to be done, especially after Alfie walked, but man we paid a steep price. Both those guys could be top 6 players putting up 50+ points a year, and in relatively short order.

Time will tell. The Sens absolutely had to make this trade yesterday, and Anaheim probably knew that. I think we got the best player, but combined, the three assets Anaheim got might end up with more value.

LeCaptain

Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:31 pm by LeCaptain

rooneypoo wrote:
wprager wrote:Noesen doesn't waste time, does he:

Anaheim Ducks ‏@AnaheimDucks

The White team wins the shootout, 2-1. Noesen and Theodore with the goals for White. Thompson had the only score for Black team.

Ugh, Noesen and Silfverberg. I'm excited to have Ryan here and there's no question that something like this had to be done, especially after Alfie walked, but man we paid a steep price. Both those guys could be top 6 players putting up 50+ points a year, and in relatively short order.

Then again, if Ryan gets 70 pts and we have one of Pageau, Puempel or Stone getting 40-60 each, we are a better team. Maybe if Noesen and Silfverberg stayed here they don't get 1st PP opportunities.

LeCaptain

Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:59 pm by LeCaptain

Scrimmage stream:

http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=616&id=262357&lang=en

Pageau's hockey sense Ahhhhh! 

PTFlea

Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:14 pm by PTFlea

Love pageau.

Ev

Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:55 pm by Ev

Lazar is sweet

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Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:26 pm by NEELY

Dude has a serious chance at cracking the lineup out of Jr. Wouldn't be surprised to see him signed to a ECL right after camp and in the starting lineup come game 1.

PTFlea

Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:47 pm by PTFlea

NEELY wrote:Dude has a serious chance at cracking the lineup out of Jr.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him signed to a ECL right after camp and in the starting lineup come game 1.

I really don't see that happening. Even for a few games. What's the rush?

M_Christopher

Post Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:31 pm by M_Christopher

SpezDispenser wrote:
NEELY wrote:Dude has a serious chance at cracking the lineup out of Jr.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him signed to a ECL right after camp and in the starting lineup come game 1.

I really don't see that happening.  Even for a few games.  What's the rush?

YEah there is ZERO cause to rush him, he's not even needed in the line-up just yet. No point in bringing to play bottom-six, and he isn't a better option then Spez, Turris, Ryan, Milan, Zibby, Conacher or Pageau - again at this point.

He's going back to Edmonton.

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Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:56 am by NEELY

Rush? did they rush Karlsson? Did they Rush Zibanejad? did they rush Cowen? No, they all played when they were ready and if Lazar is ready and earns his spot he will play and it's clear the Sens have an extremely high opinion of the player. His skating is at an NHL level, his shot is NHL level, his maturity is pretty close to NHL level, and the maturity in his game is close to NHL level.

I'll bump this thread when he's if he does crack the lineup because people dismissing a 1st round draft pick from making the team altogether isn't paying attention to this particular player.

wprager

Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:12 am by wprager

Also let's not forget that the Sens are not the prototypical team of yesteryear with two scoring lines, a checking line and an energy line. It's more of a 1, 2A, 2B where you have two secondary scoring lines, with ice time split up based on in-game assessment. Just because someone is not in the top-six doesn't mean they are playing with scrubs and are expected to come out for their 30 seconds once every 5-6 minutes and just hit everything in sight. They'd be playing with the likes of Pageau and Conacher and Greening (and prior to the trade even Silfverberg or Zibanejad).

SeawaySensFan

Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:14 am by SeawaySensFan

NEELY wrote:Rush?  did they rush Karlsson?  Did they Rush Zibanejad?  did they rush Cowen?  No, they all played when they were ready and if Lazar is ready and earns his spot he will play and it's clear the Sens have an extremely high opinion of the player.  His skating is at an NHL level, his shot is NHL level, his maturity is pretty close to NHL level, and the maturity in his game is close to NHL level.

I'll bump this thread when he's if he does crack the lineup because people dismissing a 1st round draft pick from making the team altogether isn't paying attention to this particular player.

I don't think he's even done all he can do at the Junior level just yet. This kid has a real opportunity to bust out offensively with the Oil Kings and bring that confidence into the pro ranks shortly thereafter.

LeCaptain

Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:15 am by LeCaptain

NHL ready or not, he's not gonna make it over
Spezza
Michalek
Ryan
McArthur
Turris
Zibanejad
Neil
Smith
Condra
Greening
Pageau
Conacher

I don't see a scenario where he outplays badly any of those players in their respective roles. I'm not ruling it out because there may be some trades, injuries etc. But as it stands right now, can't see it. Doesn't mean he's not NHL ready.

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Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:18 am by NEELY

He can win another WHL championship, he can play in the WJC, he can try and win a Mem Cup, there's a ton for him to do in Jr and accomplish and I don't dispute that side of the argument and think it's more likely he is back in Alberta next year vs Ottawa.

What I am saying is if he's good enough to play in Ottawa and they think he can play on lines 1-3 then he will. He was considered top 10 in the draft before the season started for a reason and just slid down the chart because of a slow start, oh well. There shouldn't be a limit on what he can do in Ottawa because of his age, lots of kids play at 18 and do just fine.

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Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:18 am by NEELY

LeKing wrote:NHL ready or not, he's not gonna make it over
Spezza
Michalek
Ryan
McArthur
Turris
Zibanejad
Neil
Smith
Condra
Greening
Pageau
Conacher

I don't see a scenario where he outplays badly any of those players in their respective roles. I'm not ruling it out because there may be some trades, injuries etc. But as it stands right now, can't see it. Doesn't mean he's not NHL ready.

No way does that entire list get to training camp and if they do then yah, he's back in Edmonton.

SeawaySensFan

Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:21 am by SeawaySensFan

NEELY wrote:He can win another WHL championship, he can play in the WJC, he can try and win a Mem Cup, there's a ton for him to do in Jr and accomplish and I don't dispute that side of the argument and think it's more likely he is back in Alberta next year vs Ottawa.  

What I am saying is if he's good enough to play in Ottawa and they think he can play on lines 1-3 then he will.  He was considered top 10 in the draft before the season started for a reason and just slid down the chart because of a slow start, oh well.  There shouldn't be a limit on what he can do in Ottawa because of his age, lots of kids play at 18 and do just fine.  

Definitely good enough right now. Most scouting reports I've read say as much anyway.

I think he can come in better a year from now. I don't even think it'll be 2 years. Besides, McKenzie projecting him to be a 3rd liner pisses me off so I want to see Lazar turn himself into a legit Top 6 out of Junior. Beer 

wprager

Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:47 am by wprager

NEELY wrote:
No way does that entire list get to training camp and if they do then yah, he's back in Edmonton.

Are you suggesting a trade? We're still looking for that RHS D-man.

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Post Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:42 am by NEELY

Wouldn't be surprised to see one or two of those guys up front moved.

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