NHL Free Agent Frenzy 2013 - Melnyk's Budget Edition

The Senators are a poorly run business, whose success on the ice is only thanks to a really good GM making the best of a bad situation.

tim1_2 wrote:The Senators are a poorly run business, whose success on the ice is only thanks to a really good GM making the best of a bad situation.

K Alfie

Ev wrote:I hope the team moves so I can move with them.

I hope you leave too, so you can then realize that Ottawa is actually a pretty sweet city to live in, all things considered. The grass is NOT greener.

tim1_2 wrote:
I would like an owner that is an insanely rich trillionaire who is a big hockey fan who just wants to win, and doesn't mind losing some money each year on the team.

You don't get rich by owning an NHL team, you own an NHL team because you're rich.

You don't get rich by buying money losing ventures either. NHL owners make money using NHL team as a gateway to other revenue such as owning an arena, or by using their team as leverage to get what they want.

You'd have to be an idiot to bleed millions upon millions every year trying to buy a Cup.

tim1_2 wrote:

Ev wrote:I hope the team moves so I can move with them.

I hope you leave too, so you can then realize that Ottawa is actually a pretty sweet city to live in, all things considered.  The grass is NOT greener.

Tell that to your boy Alfie.  

I love Ottawa. But if the Sens ever leave, I'm going with them.[/quote]

Hoags wrote:He is using the team as leverage.

Like I said in other threads if the cap goes up, they need to raise ticket prices to keep up, where are they supposed to find the money to spend to an ever increasing cap? There are limits before the team takes losses.

Is Eugene just supposed to bleed money every year and spend to the cap because the fans say so but they are unable or unwilling to pay more than below NHL average ticket prices?

This, I must say, is absolutely true. Ottawa fan is even cheaper than The Gene.

tim1_2 wrote:

Hoags wrote:He is using the team as leverage.

Like I said in other threads if the cap goes up, they need to raise ticket prices to keep up, where are they supposed to find the money to spend to an ever increasing cap? There are limits before the team takes losses.

Is Eugene just supposed to bleed money every year and spend to the cap because the fans say so but they are unable or unwilling to pay more than below NHL average ticket prices?

I would like an owner that is an insanely rich trillionaire who is a big hockey fan who just wants to win, and doesn't mind losing some money each year on the team.

You don't get rich by owning an NHL team, you own an NHL team because you're rich.

 You really live in a dreamland

SeawaySensFan wrote:
This, I must say, is absolutely true. Ottawa fan is even cheaper than The Gene.

Ticket prices are set at what the market can bear. I am sure someone smarter than me did the research and made a decision based on that.

We're not Toronto or Montreal so we can't charge an arm and a leg here.

Hoags wrote:He is using the team as leverage.

Like I said in other threads if the cap goes up, they need to raise ticket prices to keep up, where are they supposed to find the money to spend to an ever increasing cap? There are limits before the team takes losses.

Is Eugene just supposed to bleed money every year and spend to the cap because the fans say so but they are unable or unwilling to pay more than below NHL average ticket prices?

He's also subtly (or not so subtly) telling the city that you should build a casino on his land through that message. Just raise the damn ticket price already

Hoags wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
This, I must say, is absolutely true. Ottawa fan is even cheaper than The Gene.

Ticket prices are set at what the market can bear.  I am sure someone smarter than me did the research and made a decision based on that.

We're not Toronto or Montreal so we can't charge an arm and a leg here.

No one is suggesting charging an arm and a leg.  But nearly 20 bucks less than the league average is silly.

http://www.fancostexperience.com/pages/fcx/blog_pdfs/entry0000020_pdf001.pdf

Hope the casino is built at RCR, a lot of peoples lively hoods are at stake while basically nothing is at stake if the casino isn't built right beside CTC. So sick of Melnyk and if he wants to use the Sens as leverage he can go right ahead, city won't budge because the Sens are not going anywhere.

Michallica wrote:
He's also subtly (or not so subtly) telling the city that you should build a casino on his land through that message.  Just raise the damn ticket price already

Of course he is, he's a businessman, he didn't buy the Sens to lose money.

If he is making money on the Sens he'd make more money with a casino and if him and the team are struggling well then they really do need it.

I think they can only raise the prices so much, they haven't even sold out all their season tickets last I heard.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Hoags wrote:He is using the team as leverage.

Like I said in other threads if the cap goes up, they need to raise ticket prices to keep up, where are they supposed to find the money to spend to an ever increasing cap? There are limits before the team takes losses.

Is Eugene just supposed to bleed money every year and spend to the cap because the fans say so but they are unable or unwilling to pay more than below NHL average ticket prices?

This, I must say, is absolutely true. Ottawa fan is even cheaper than The Gene.

We still can't sell out every game even with the lowest prices to boot. That statement is definitely true

SeawaySensFan wrote:
No one is suggesting charging an arm and a leg.  But nearly 20 bucks less than the league average is silly.

http://www.fancostexperience.com/pages/fcx/blog_pdfs/entry0000020_pdf001.pdf

But maybe that is what the market can bear? I doubt they are keeping ticket prices where they are at because they are being charitable.

If they could charge more and still sell out they would do it.

NEELY wrote:Hope the casino is built at RCR, a lot of peoples lively hoods are at stake while basically nothing is at stake if the casino isn't built right beside CTC.  So sick of Melnyk and if he wants to use the Sens as leverage he can go right ahead, city won't budge because the Sens are not going anywhere.

Like I said there is NO reason you can't have both.

Watch the Greenbergs come in and ask for, and get one, at Landsdowne after the City says no to Gene.

Hoags wrote:

Michallica wrote:
He's also subtly (or not so subtly) telling the city that you should build a casino on his land through that message.  Just raise the damn ticket price already

Of course he is, he's a businessman, he didn't buy the Sens to lose money.

If he is making money on the Sens he'd make more money with a casino and if him and the team are struggling well then they really do need it.

I think they can only raise the prices so much, they haven't even sold out all their season tickets last I heard.

So basically everyone against melnyk's penny pinching should be supporting his campaign for the casino in kanata.

tim1_2 wrote:

Ev wrote:I hope the team moves so I can move with them.

I hope you leave too, so you can then realize that Ottawa is actually a pretty sweet city to live in, all things considered.  The grass is NOT greener.

After having grown up in ottawa and every time I come back to visit, I beg to differ. Maybe ottawa isn't Sudbury or Winnipeg but it sure ain't a bustling metropolis either. I don't think I'll ever be able to live in ottawa again. It's just lacking in being able to attract the kind of things I've come to expect from life in the big city. But don't get me wrong, I'll always love my sens and it pains me great to not be able to attend more games.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Like I said there is NO reason you can't have both.

Why can't they have both? Or why can't they even have an open bidding process to consider all options? It would be additional jobs and money to the city so it's not like there's no benefit.