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NHL Free Agent Frenzy 2013 - Melnyk's Budget Edition

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tim1_2 wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:This is a piss-poor day to decide to do your taxes on.  

I hate doing taxes even though I get $$ back.  It's really demoralizing when it's in-your-face how much you have given to those morons.   My father-in-law didn't finish highschool but still ended up with a job which allowed him to come home for lunch, raise five kids in a small house, and go on a family vacation to Ocean Park (Maine) every year.  And his wife mostly stayed home.  We've got two good salaries but still have 10 years to go before we are mortgage free, and even when the mortgage is paid we would still be paying probably over $700 a month in residential taxes (that's assuming the assessments keep going up just 5% a year -- they've been going up 7% for the last 10).

The price you pay for living in the best country on the planet.

Can I get a refund?

No, but you can get out.

Cheers 

wprager


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tim1_2 wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
wprager wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:This is a piss-poor day to decide to do your taxes on.  

I hate doing taxes even though I get $$ back.  It's really demoralizing when it's in-your-face how much you have given to those morons.   My father-in-law didn't finish highschool but still ended up with a job which allowed him to come home for lunch, raise five kids in a small house, and go on a family vacation to Ocean Park (Maine) every year.  And his wife mostly stayed home.  We've got two good salaries but still have 10 years to go before we are mortgage free, and even when the mortgage is paid we would still be paying probably over $700 a month in residential taxes (that's assuming the assessments keep going up just 5% a year -- they've been going up 7% for the last 10).

The price you pay for living in the best country on the planet.

Can I get a refund?

No, but you can get out.

Wait a minute ...

You're under 40, right? My son is 16. He thinks paying taxes is great, too.

If you're not voting Liberal when you're 20 you've got no heart. If you're not voting Conservative by the time you're 40, you've got no brain.

SeawaySensFan


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Hoags wrote:
LeKing wrote:Did I say the Internet was a joke?

@ctvottmornlive: .@TSNBobMcKenzie reports Daniel Alfredsson has signed with Detroit.

Brennan fell for it too Laughing3 

Now he's lashing out for being called out... What a classless nimrod.

Don Brennan ‏@SunDoniB 1m

Thinking that people with fake accounts pee their pants giggling when they fool someone #getalife
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Don Brennan Don Brennan ‏@SunDoniB 2m

Further to getting tricked by a fake: I'm 99.9 percent believing Alfredsson is re-signing with Ottawa. So yeah, it was dum

tim1_2

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wprager wrote:
Wait a minute ...

You're under 40, right? My son is 16. He thinks paying taxes is great, too.

If you're not voting Liberal when you're 20 you've got no heart. If you're not voting Conservative by the time you're 40, you've got no brain.

I'm 30, with one kid and another on the way, and a mortgage. I feel tons of financial pressure as well.

But there's no place I'd rather be than Canada...ESPECIALLY with a family.

wprager

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Canada would be an even better country if the money was spent better. Surely you don't disagree with that, right? Year-end budget buying sprees -- does it make it a better country if every random government department bought new chairs or new PCs or new whatever just so the could spend their entire budget? That happens every year, everywhere. It doesn't happen in the private sector, for some reason.


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tim1_2

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wprager wrote:Canada would be an even better country if the money was spent better. Surely you don't disagree with that, right? Year-end budget buying sprees -- does it make it a better country if every random government department bought new chairs or new PCs or new whatever just so the could spend their entire budget? That happens every year, everywhere. It doesn't happen in the private sector, for some reason.

I work in the Federal Government, and it doesn't happen in my Department. That used to happen more in the past, not so much anymore.

SeawaySensFan

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wprager wrote:Canada would be an even better country if the money was spent better.  Surely you don't disagree with that, right?  Year-end budget buying sprees -- does it make it a better country if every random government department bought new chairs or new PCs or new whatever just so the could spend their entire budget?  That happens every year, everywhere.  It doesn't happen in the private sector, for some reason.  

It does. Around tax time profitable companies throw perfectly good stuff in the dumpster and buy new stuff to avoid paying taxes. I've participated in the exercise.

You ever try to buy a pen in the government? Or ask for a computer that doesn't take 20 mins. to boot up? Didn't think so. You might get that during the "year-end budget buying sprees", if you're lucky but usually not.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
wprager wrote:Canada would be an even better country if the money was spent better.  Surely you don't disagree with that, right?  Year-end budget buying sprees -- does it make it a better country if every random government department bought new chairs or new PCs or new whatever just so the could spend their entire budget?  That happens every year, everywhere.  It doesn't happen in the private sector, for some reason.  

It does. Around tax time profitable companies throw perfectly good stuff in the dumpster and buy new stuff to avoid paying taxes. I've participated in the exercise.

You ever try to buy a pen in the government? Or ask for a computer that doesn't take 20 mins. to boot up?  Didn't think so. You might get that during the "year-end budget buying sprees", if you're lucky but usually not.

Lots of other examples. The stimulus money, for example. Come out to Kanata and see the bridge they built over the Carp "river". I am not even being figurative when I say I could jump over this "river" in most places -- and I'm over 50. The only reason they built it was because the Feds were giving municipalities stimulus money to fund infrastructure projects. That bridge was completely unnecessary, but the Feds said the money had to be spent on infrastructure, so it got spent.


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tim1_2

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wprager wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
wprager wrote:Canada would be an even better country if the money was spent better.  Surely you don't disagree with that, right?  Year-end budget buying sprees -- does it make it a better country if every random government department bought new chairs or new PCs or new whatever just so the could spend their entire budget?  That happens every year, everywhere.  It doesn't happen in the private sector, for some reason.  

It does. Around tax time profitable companies throw perfectly good stuff in the dumpster and buy new stuff to avoid paying taxes. I've participated in the exercise.

You ever try to buy a pen in the government? Or ask for a computer that doesn't take 20 mins. to boot up?  Didn't think so. You might get that during the "year-end budget buying sprees", if you're lucky but usually not.

Lots of other examples. The stimulus money, for example. Come out to Kanata and see the bridge they built over the Carp "river". I am not even being figurative when I say I could jump over this "river" in most places -- and I'm over 50. The only reason they built it was because the Feds were giving municipalities stimulus money to fund infrastructure projects. That bridge was completely unnecessary, but the Feds said the money had to be spent on infrastructure, so it got spent.

Yeah, no Country is perfect, but I think Canada gets it mostly right. Name me a better Country.

SeawaySensFan

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wprager wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
wprager wrote:Canada would be an even better country if the money was spent better.  Surely you don't disagree with that, right?  Year-end budget buying sprees -- does it make it a better country if every random government department bought new chairs or new PCs or new whatever just so the could spend their entire budget?  That happens every year, everywhere.  It doesn't happen in the private sector, for some reason.  

It does. Around tax time profitable companies throw perfectly good stuff in the dumpster and buy new stuff to avoid paying taxes. I've participated in the exercise.

You ever try to buy a pen in the government? Or ask for a computer that doesn't take 20 mins. to boot up?  Didn't think so. You might get that during the "year-end budget buying sprees", if you're lucky but usually not.

Lots of other examples.  The stimulus money, for example.  Come out to Kanata and see the bridge they built over the Carp "river".  I am not even being figurative when I say I could jump over this "river" in most places -- and I'm over 50.  The only reason they built it was because the Feds were giving municipalities stimulus money to fund infrastructure projects.  That bridge was completely unnecessary, but the Feds said the money had to be spent on infrastructure, so it got spent.

I'm sure the construction companies and workers that were able to put food on the table were happy to get the work. I bet they paid TAXES on that salary too.

LeCaptain

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From someone who has lived in disastrous countries, I can confirm there is not a lot better than Canada.

tim1_2

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LeKing wrote:From someone who has lived in disastrous countries, I can confirm there is not a lot better than Canada.

There is NO better Country. Period.

wprager

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LeKing wrote:From someone who has lived in disastrous countries, I can confirm there is not a lot better than Canada.

I lived in Soviet Russia.


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The Sens better make a hell of a splash now. People are pissed off. At both Alfie and the Sens.

NEELY


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I don't feel as bad as I thought once it set in. IMO if they sign Clarkson I think it is a move that makes the Sens better maybe not tomorrow but the year after and when all the guys are ready to make an expected run at the cup.

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NEELY wrote:I don't feel as bad as I thought once it set in.  IMO if they sign Clarkson I think it is a move that makes the Sens better maybe not tomorrow but the year after and when all the guys are ready to make an expected run at the cup.  

Thing is, they won't.


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NEELY wrote:I don't feel as bad as I thought once it set in.  IMO if they sign Clarkson I think it is a move that makes the Sens better maybe not tomorrow but the year after and when all the guys are ready to make an expected run at the cup.  

I don't feel bad for the Sens in general at all. In fact it's good for the organization that we are moving on.
It's more personal than anything else.

wprager

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LeKing wrote:
NEELY wrote:I don't feel as bad as I thought once it set in.  IMO if they sign Clarkson I think it is a move that makes the Sens better maybe not tomorrow but the year after and when all the guys are ready to make an expected run at the cup.  

I don't feel bad for the Sens in general at all. In fact it's good for the organization that we are moving on.
It's more personal than anything else.

Yep, it's personal. I feel cheated. If you go over some of his quotes in the last few weeks it really feels like a betrayal.


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