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NHL Free Agent Frenzy 2013 - Melnyk's Budget Edition

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tim1_2


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I don't see how anyone could argue that Clarkson isn't a good hockey player...pretty sure any team in the league would take him. That said, he'll most definitely get overpaid. Still, a good player that I'd take in a second.

PTFlea


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Hoags wrote:Don't sign Clarkson ... he had one good year.  30G and a 13% Shot percentage that he's never come close to other years and never will again.

There's an element of buyer beware, but you're acquiring him for more than just popping in goals. Not sure he's our 'guy', but we could do a lot worse.

NEELY


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I like Clarkson a lot and any team that lands him is getting a very good hockey player that is hell to play against. That said... at what cost? 6 mil a year for a guy like that is a huge overpayment. If they are intending to land Clarkson then there is NO QUESTION Alfie will be coming back.

PTFlea

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Elias re-signs, it's f-ing Alfie time now!!

NEELY


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tim1_2 wrote:I don't see how anyone could argue that Clarkson isn't a good hockey player...pretty sure any team in the league would take him.  That said, he'll most definitely get overpaid.  Still, a good player that I'd take in a second.

Exactly. What ever teams signs him will be a better team that day.

PTFlea

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NEELY wrote:I like Clarkson a lot and any team that lands him is getting a very good hockey player that is hell to play against.  That said... at what cost?  6 mil a year for a guy like that is a huge overpayment.  If they are intending to land Clarkson then there is NO QUESTION Alfie will be coming back.

Surely he can't ask for 6 million, surely. 4.5 is the max I'd pay for him, maybe 5, maybe, but more than that is garbage.

Hoags

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SpezDispenser wrote:
There's an element of buyer beware, but you're acquiring him for more than just popping in goals.  Not sure he's our 'guy', but we could do a lot worse.

If you are going to pay him what he will get on the market he damn well better put in goals, lots of them.  He had one crazy good year that was nothing like his past seasons (he is 29).

Anyone who signs him for a lot of money and term is an idiot.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Surely he can't ask for 6 million, surely.  4.5 is the max I'd pay for him, maybe 5, maybe, but more than that is garbage.

He can ask and I think he will get it. It's free agency, the players are always overpaid.

Ev

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Hoags wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
There's an element of buyer beware, but you're acquiring him for more than just popping in goals.  Not sure he's our 'guy', but we could do a lot worse.

If you are going to pay him what he will get on the market he damn well better put in goals, lots of them.  He had one crazy good year that was nothing like his past seasons (he is 29).

Anyone who signs him for a lot of money and term is an idiot.

Some guys are late bloomers.

SeawaySensFan

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SpezDispenser wrote:
NEELY wrote:I like Clarkson a lot and any team that lands him is getting a very good hockey player that is hell to play against.  That said... at what cost?  6 mil a year for a guy like that is a huge overpayment.  If they are intending to land Clarkson then there is NO QUESTION Alfie will be coming back.

Surely he can't ask for 6 million, surely.  4.5 is the max I'd pay for him, maybe 5, maybe, but more than that is garbage.

About a million more than Bickell would be fair. Still, I don't think I'd sign him for more than 3 or 4 years regardless.

Ev

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also you're saying he had one crazy good year, but was on pace for 26 goals this year. That's valuable for everything else he brings.

PTFlea

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Holy Diddle. Elias got a 3 year deal?

Hoags

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Ev wrote:

Some guys are late bloomers.

Or sometimes they have one lucky year where the puck just seems to go in as well.

He came back down quite a lot this year, and players usually put up their best numbers in contract years.

Plus he is 29, forwards are already past their peak at that age.

PTFlea

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Holy Diddle, Elias got 5+ million dollars?

PTFlea

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https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/352828791346839552

Sweet Enola happy! What the Diddle!

NEELY


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I think 5mil x 5-6 years for Clarkson is about right all things considered. I would rather get 20 goals a year from Clarkson then 30 from Ryder when you take into account the rest of the game. I don't think Clarkson has 5 years left in him though but the next 3 I believe he would be worth every single penny. The trade off for signing Clarkson will be term and the Sens being in the division they are in, there are way worse players you can sign.

PTFlea

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Cheese and Rice! 5.5 million X 3 for Elias....wow.

Ev

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Hoags wrote:
Ev wrote:

Some guys are late bloomers.

Or sometimes they have one lucky year where the puck just seems to go in as well.

He came back down quite a lot this year, and players usually put up their best numbers in contract years.

Plus he is 29, forwards are already past their peak at that age.

How is going down 4 goals and 5 points "coming back down quite a bit"? His team is also a defensive team with awful depth.

Not all forwards are past their peak at that age.

Ev

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SpezDispenser wrote:Cheese and Rice!  5.5 million X 3 for Elias....wow.

Why are you shocked at this? Do you know how good he is? $5.5 is nothing. Gonchar got 5 for christ sake.

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