SENS OFF-SEASON TALK 2013

rooneypoo wrote:Ballard on waivers, FYI.

Be interesting to see if anyone touches that contract.

NEELY wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:Ballard on waivers, FYI.

Be interesting to see if anyone touches that contract.

Two more years at $4.2 mil. I dunno. Ballard was a pretty solid Dman before he ended up in VAN. He would be a good fit here, I'd think.

Ah, a lefty. Scratch all that. Pass.

Cant nickel and dime your own players and then go out and pick up a guy who is more of a 2-3 mil player making 4.2 for the next couple years. Tough move to make and explain to people.

NEELY wrote:Cant nickel and dime your own players and then go out and pick up a guy who is more of a 2-3 mil player making 4.2 for the next couple years.  Tough move to make and explain to people.

There's something to that, for sure.

NEELY wrote:Cant nickel and dime your own players and then go out and pick up a guy who is more of a 2-3 mil player making 4.2 for the next couple years.  Tough move to make and explain to people.

still I can see maybe BM getting Greening under contract fo 2.5 mill for the next 3 years. I think greening likes where he's at and the chances he's got to play where he plays in ottawa. might end up on a line with pageau at some point and be able to keep producing even out of the top 6. fits into the longer term plan.

according to Garioch there's "plenty of talk" the pens coud move James Neil now" and "the sens could have interest". obviously judging from where this is coming from you have to think this is pure speculation but if the pens are gonna keep Letang some salary will have to come off somewhere else. If anything I really hope BM is looking into this as Neil would be perfect to play with spezza. wonder how bad the asking price would be but this is just the type of move we've been talking about.

Ballard would be a welcome addition and I think he plays the right side. Have to check into that but it could be a piece we look hard at.

I think Greening is one of McLean`s favs.. He can put him anywhere in the lineup and he won`t hurt the team.

IF they can sign him at a decent contract now.. He`s making about 950K in salary right now.. He becomes a UFA next season..

I think Murray will try to get some of next year`s expiring contracts done now.. instead of trying to wait until these guys have really good seasons which would end up costing the Sens more $$ in contracts.

Flo The Action wrote:according to Garioch there's "plenty of talk" the pens coud move James Neil now" and "the sens could have interest". obviously judging from where this is coming from you have to think this is pure speculation but if the pens are gonna keep Letang some salary will have to come off somewhere else. If anything I really hope BM is looking into this as Neil would be perfect to play with spezza. wonder how bad the asking price would be but this is just the type of move we've been talking about.

All in. Seriously, the Sens need to win the sweeps for this guy. He's a pure sniper who's deceivingly built like a brick Dung house. Go Murray, go!

Another thing that's been gnawing at me is the apparent standstill in negotiations between the Sens and Wiercioch. I hope Wiercioch isn't asking for much, there's a LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOONG way for him to go before he can sit there and make any kind of demands.

SpezDispenser wrote:Another thing that's been gnawing at me is the apparent standstill in negotiations between the Sens and Wiercioch.  I hope Wiercioch isn't asking for much, there's a LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOONG way for him to go before he can sit there and make any kind of demands.

I'm not really sure we can talk of standstill. I think right now the one way contract has to be big for him and with the fact he was making 850 he probably wants a little raise. I imagine his agent is making the case that with Gonchar gone he'll be expected to play in the top 4. now if B-murr was to acquire a top 4 D-man before a contract gets inked then they'd have something to argue about.

honestly I was looking at the realignment and the sens need IMO to get better at defense for next season. it's gonna be harder to make the playoffs in my opinion and I believe Montreal, tampa, Toronto and detroit along with Ottawa will all be knocking at the door behind Boston to make the playoffs. can't count on the wildcard thing as it really depends on how much points certain teams will be able to get in other divisions. the more parity there is one on division the more it benefits the other division in my eyes.

Flo The Action wrote:honestly I was looking at the realignment and the sens need IMO to get better at defense for next season. it's gonna be harder to make the playoffs in my opinion and I believe Montreal, tampa, Toronto and detroit along with Ottawa will all be knocking at the door behind Boston to make the playoffs. can't count on the wildcard thing as it really depends on how much points certain teams will be able to get in other divisions. the more parity there is one on division the more it benefits the other division in my eyes.

My thoughts exactly. Boston is a lock in the division to make the playoffs... and I would put Detroit in there as well.

So spot 3 is up for grabs between Mtl, Tor, Ott, Tam. The 4th position could be given to a team in the other division who has more points than the 4th place team in the Sens division.

Regular season points within the division are more important than ever. What scares me is Ottawa has regular season losing records the last couple of seasons combined with Bos, Mtl & Tor. If they can`t win at least 2 of the season series with those teams.. .then they will be in tough. It`s just reality.

SpezDispenser wrote:Another thing that's been gnawing at me is the apparent standstill in negotiations between the Sens and Wiercioch.  I hope Wiercioch isn't asking for much, there's a LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOONG way for him to go before he can sit there and make any kind of demands.

You realize the guy just got married Friday, and Turris was in his party (probably best-man). I think you can put at least some of the lack of progress to the honeymoon. Wait a couple of weeks until Patty gets back and is all mellowed out on Island Time.

sandysensfan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:honestly I was looking at the realignment and the sens need IMO to get better at defense for next season. it's gonna be harder to make the playoffs in my opinion and I believe Montreal, tampa, Toronto and detroit along with Ottawa will all be knocking at the door behind Boston to make the playoffs. can't count on the wildcard thing as it really depends on how much points certain teams will be able to get in other divisions. the more parity there is one on division the more it benefits the other division in my eyes.

My thoughts exactly.  Boston is a lock in the division to make the playoffs... and I would put Detroit in there as well.

So spot 3 is up for grabs between Mtl, Tor, Ott, Tam.  The 4th position could be given to a team in the other division who has more points than the 4th place team in the Sens division.

Regular season points within the division are more important than ever.  What scares me is Ottawa has regular season losing records the last couple of seasons combined with Bos, Mtl & Tor.  If they can`t win at least 2 of the season series with those teams.. .then they will be in tough.  It`s just reality.

How is Detroit a lock to get in when they almost missed this year? And Boston will be riddled with injuries/fatigue, and missing a few key elements (Horton, Ference, maybe Seguin). Bergeron may not be able to train, what with the broken rig, separated shoulder, perforated lung and getting married.

If Price doesn't get it back together the Habs are going to be in trouble, to. No more Cole, not sure if they are re-signing Ryder, either. Eller was messed up by Gryba. Subban will be more insufferable now than ever.

Leafs got better, for sure, but the most improved team in the Division -- by a *long* way -- is Ottawa. Karlsson and Spezza; well-rested Silfverberg and Zibanejad; Turris and Wiercioch with one more summer training with Schwartz; Conacher and Pageau.

wprager wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:honestly I was looking at the realignment and the sens need IMO to get better at defense for next season. it's gonna be harder to make the playoffs in my opinion and I believe Montreal, tampa, Toronto and detroit along with Ottawa will all be knocking at the door behind Boston to make the playoffs. can't count on the wildcard thing as it really depends on how much points certain teams will be able to get in other divisions. the more parity there is one on division the more it benefits the other division in my eyes.

My thoughts exactly.  Boston is a lock in the division to make the playoffs... and I would put Detroit in there as well.

So spot 3 is up for grabs between Mtl, Tor, Ott, Tam.  The 4th position could be given to a team in the other division who has more points than the 4th place team in the Sens division.

Regular season points within the division are more important than ever.  What scares me is Ottawa has regular season losing records the last couple of seasons combined with Bos, Mtl & Tor.  If they can`t win at least 2 of the season series with those teams.. .then they will be in tough.  It`s just reality.

How is Detroit a lock to get in when they almost missed this year?  And Boston will be riddled with injuries/fatigue, and missing a few key elements (Horton, Ference, maybe Seguin).  Bergeron may not be able to train, what with the broken rig, separated shoulder, perforated lung and getting married.

If Price doesn't get it back together the Habs are going to be in trouble, to.  No more Cole, not sure if they are re-signing Ryder, either.  Eller was messed up by Gryba.  Subban will be more insufferable now than ever.  

Leafs got better, for sure, but the most improved team in the Division -- by a *long* way -- is Ottawa.  Karlsson and Spezza; well-rested Silfverberg and Zibanejad; Turris and Wiercioch with one more summer training with Schwartz;  Conacher and Pageau.  

I certainly hope you are right... The Sens making the playoffs depend a lot on the health of Spezza, Michalek & especially Karlsson. We don't even know if Karlsson will be back to form in Sept.

I'm always right. Or at least that's what the kids say I think.

sandysensfan wrote:
I certainly hope you are right...  The Sens making the playoffs depend a lot on the health of Spezza, Michalek & especially Karlsson.  We don't even know if Karlsson will be back to form in Sept.

Well after this past season's injury disasters I think we are due much better luck on that front

I believe Detroit's farm team won the Calder Cup, they will be a threat for years to come if that win has any of the similar impact it did for us when Bingo won.

Leafs and Habs will be dangerous as well. Boston might be too banged up but they might recover in time to make the post season.

The rest of the teams are probably not a threat but there's usually one team that surprises.