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wprager wrote:Interesting how he says nothing about Alfredsson:

Probably feels as betrayed as we do.

I wonder if someone is going to ask Alfredsson a hard question, like, "How did you feel when you heard that Bobby Ryan was coming to the Senators?"

Gotta admire The Alfie for putting it all on himself and not placing any blame on the Sens org.

wprager wrote:Interesting how he says nothing about Alfredsson:

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Relaxing in Rome and, BOOM all of a sudden @b_ryan9 is coming to town. Welcome. sad to see silf and noesen go but wish them all the best.

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Will give a comment on alfie later this week. Obviously very sad he's is gone and he's irreplaceable. But wish him more than all the best !

Gotta say I wanted MacArthur for a while and it feels good to take him from the Leafs because he scored some pretty big goals for them. Put him in an offensive system and lets see what happens with him. LH shot too which the Sens needed in such a big way. This signing will pay off, no question.

I was actually thinking about McArthur last night, that he would be a nice addition. didn't even know he was a free agent. Weird.

tim1_2 wrote:Gotta admire The Alfie for putting it all on himself and not placing any blame on the Sens org.

Yep. But how could he have blamed the Sens? They were in on the Clarkson sweepstakes, they got McArthur (2 x 20 goal scorer) and they landed Ryan ( 4 x 30 goal scorer). He has no leg to stand on to try and say the Sens were not going for it. Of course his decision was taken before Ryan, but his phone call was after, so there is nothing he could have said that didn't sound like back-pedaling.

And it's very possible that if Alfie came back then the Ryan deal would not have been made (unless the Duck caved and took the 2nd instead of the first that was in Murray's offer). But it is what it is. Alfie's golden statue just got tarnished. Maybe it'll get polished up again, but I doubt he settles in Ottawa in his retirement like he was saying before. Nowhere near as bad as Heatley or even Yashin, but there is no way I can see the majority of the fans saying "We still love you no matter what."

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Gotta admire The Alfie for putting it all on himself and not placing any blame on the Sens org.

Yep.  But how could he have blamed the Sens?  They were in on the Clarkson sweepstakes, they got McArthur (2 x 20 goal scorer) and they landed Ryan ( 4 x 30 goal scorer).  He has no leg to stand on to try and say the Sens were not going for it.  Of course his decision was taken before Ryan, but his phone call was after, so there is nothing he could have said that didn't sound like back-pedaling.  

And it's very possible that if Alfie came back then the Ryan deal would not have been made (unless the Duck caved and took the 2nd instead of the first that was in Murray's offer).  But it is what it is.  Alfie's golden statue just got tarnished.  Maybe it'll get polished up again, but I doubt he settles in Ottawa in his retirement like he was saying before.  Nowhere near as bad  as Heatley or even Yashin, but there is no way I can see the majority of the fans saying "We still love you no matter what."

its not like the ray bourque situation but you can't help but feel he wants the cup. I don't agree with him that the wings have a better chance but it's his choice.
Maybe he returns next year after we've beat the wings in the playoffs? 

LeKing wrote:I was actually thinking about McArthur last night, that he would be a nice addition. didn't even know he was a free agent. Weird.

He was thinking about you as well, old friend.

Add in a top 2 D man and we've got a real shot or at least a better shot than the Wings.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Add in a top 2 D man and we've got a real shot or at least a better shot than the Wings.

Yeah, actually not even a top 2, a 2nd pairing, right hander with a great PP resume. Boyle, Bogosian, someone like that (ha ha) would put the Sens up to 'near' contender status - if not contender.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Add in a top 2 D man and we've got a real shot or at least a better shot than the Wings.

Yeah, actually not even a top 2, a 2nd pairing, right hander with a great PP resume.  Boyle, Bogosian, someone like that (ha ha) would put the Sens up to 'near' contender status - if not contender.

I think with Ryan and Anderson (if he plays like he did in the regular season) we are a contender already.

If they are looking for a guy who will come in, do a job, and probably do it well it's Hainsey... I just hate union slugs. Franson would be a real solid option as well but it's gonna be Blum.

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Add in a top 2 D man and we've got a real shot or at least a better shot than the Wings.

Yeah, actually not even a top 2, a 2nd pairing, right hander with a great PP resume.  Boyle, Bogosian, someone like that (ha ha) would put the Sens up to 'near' contender status - if not contender.

I think with Ryan and Anderson (if he plays like he did in the regular season) we are a contender already.  

I don't really know about that to be honest. Boston is a contender, Chicago, LA - the usual suspects. We're in the stratosphere, but I'm not sure Bobby Ryan put us into that realm yet. Boyle might, but we're another year away from being the 'real' contender IMO. The kids have to mature a little more etc.

I must say that Murray has balls.

I never thought he'd gave the guts to do a ballsy risky move.

Hoags wrote:I must say that Murray has balls.

I never thought he'd gave the guts to do a ballsy risky move.

Cussing fun stuff, wasn't it? Months of us talking about a move like this and he does it. This is what happens when you can draft well.

SpezDispenser wrote:

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Add in a top 2 D man and we've got a real shot or at least a better shot than the Wings.

Yeah, actually not even a top 2, a 2nd pairing, right hander with a great PP resume.  Boyle, Bogosian, someone like that (ha ha) would put the Sens up to 'near' contender status - if not contender.

I think with Ryan and Anderson (if he plays like he did in the regular season) we are a contender already.  

I don't really know about that to be honest.  Boston is a contender, Chicago, LA - the usual suspects.  We're in the stratosphere, but I'm not sure Bobby Ryan put us into that realm yet.  Boyle might, but we're another year away from being the 'real' contender IMO.  The kids have to mature a little more etc.

Adding Ryan and MacArthur gets us a lot closer. Throw in a top 4 D and we're right in the mix IMO

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Add in a top 2 D man and we've got a real shot or at least a better shot than the Wings.

Yeah, actually not even a top 2, a 2nd pairing, right hander with a great PP resume.  Boyle, Bogosian, someone like that (ha ha) would put the Sens up to 'near' contender status - if not contender.

I think with Ryan and Anderson (if he plays like he did in the regular season) we are a contender already.  

I don't really know about that to be honest.  Boston is a contender, Chicago, LA - the usual suspects.  We're in the stratosphere, but I'm not sure Bobby Ryan put us into that realm yet.  Boyle might, but we're another year away from being the 'real' contender IMO.  The kids have to mature a little more etc.

Adding Ryan and MacArthur gets us a lot closer. Throw in a top 4 D and we're right in the mix IMO

Close. I maintain another year + away from all the young players to be where they need to be, but close. Doubt we get a Boyle, but I think we get a top 4 D-man, or I hope we can.