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Hoags wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I think the point of Melnyk right now is that overpaying for guys isn't necessarily the correct way of doing things.    

The Jets have an internal budget so it's not unprecedented for a Canadian team to do so.

I doubt the Sens can spend as much as the other Canadian teams if their ticket prices are so much cheaper as well.

From what we went through with the lazy factor a few years ago, I think it's smart to have an internal cap. Why not? Clearly Murray can handle it and if someone is dropped in our lap - ie.Boyle or Briere, Melnyk will ante up, I'm 100% positive.

The one thing I don't want the Sens to do is spend stupid like they did with Kovalev and like the Flyers are doing.

But to get a top 6 forward and a top 4 D is something that helps this team during the regular season to make the playoffs and hopefully going further into the playoffs making Melnyk more $$$.

So it makes sense to spend money to make money... but smart money..

Now Travis Yost wrote two more articles re: Melnyk's finances (don't read them if you don't want to)

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=52479&blogger_id=134#.UdSn2rRzbIU

and this one:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=52533&blogger_id=134#.UdSoPLRzbIU

The last one was really indepth... and he got this e-mail responding to the latest article:

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Now I would assume that he does not more articles about Melnyk's troubles.

Never post anything from hockey buzz here please. Might as well be written with crayon.

Yost is a solid blogger.

Anyone who posts on that site has no credibility at all. None. It's a tabloid and that's being nice.

More or less of a tabloid then the Sun?

Yost - the Ottawa Senators expert based out of New York...

I have always found that odd. I do prefer to read what he has to say over our local options

You have to be from Ottawa to look up public information ?

oh well who knows what's going on, I hope it's not another Rod Bryden situation.

i don't see this as BS anymore though. How long before he sells the team?

Ev wrote:i don't see this as BS anymore though. How long before he sells the team?

What has happened to change your opinion? Some blogger scouring old news to dig up quotes?

Check Yost's twitter.. He's still at it.. even after receiving that e-mail...

sandysensfan wrote:Check Yost's twitter.. He's still at it.. even after receiving that e-mail...

Thing is, he is not a forensic accountant.  I was once in the employ of a company owned (whether directly or indirectly) by Rod Bryden.  He wasn't doing so well so had to declare bankruptcy and paid his investors something like 15 cents on the dollar.  As employees we were on the bottom end of the list of those owed money (severance and the like).  We had one guy who had 15 years with the company, and company policy was 2 weeks severance for each year of service.  Some lawyer came around starting a class action suit, and asking for a $150 retainer.  I'd been with the company less than a year so I figured I had nothing coming to me.  Well a few months later the lawyer came back and offered something like 45 cents on the dollar from any future moneys recovered -- so no up-front outlay of $150 like before.  So those of us who did not pony up $150 now just signed some papers and sat back.  I ended up getting 2 months severance *pus* the 2 weeks for 1 year of service (rounded up).  Well, I got 45% of that, the lawyer kept the rest.  The guy who had 30 weeks coming to him was in this second group as he didn't think $150 against 30 weeks' severance was worth it  .  The reason the lawyer was able to get this money out was they found some serious financial shenanigans (not saying Bryden, personally, had anything to do with this).  Point is, even though he was "broke" and had to sell all his holdings just to pay hes investors 15 cents on the dollar, somehow there was money to pay us all the severance we were due.  

Oh, and imagine my surprise when Rod Bryden bought the Senators just a few short years later.

Sorry, I just don't think Travis "Hockey. Hoops" Yost has the background and necessary skillset to do what he is trying to do.  Not saying he is wrong w.r.t. Melnyk's personal finances, just saying that he could also be very, very wrong as to what it really means.

Oye. All this about Alfie and Melnyk's finances hurts my brain. The Alfie will be resigned sooner or later (preferably sooner).

Melnyk and the Murrays don't need to be in any rush to spend big dough on the roster, but a significant signing or trade would go a long way with the fans.

Something to get the people talking for sure but again, I wouldn't expect much unless something you can't turn down comes along. A lot of things have to play out between now and probably the end of next week for the Sens to really evaluate what they need, what's available, and what they can afford. This off season IMO is about patients because there is going to be an overflow of guys available to sign if need be and at a good price as well because right now the market is flooded and most teams are at the cap as it stands.

I think something important to remember for us is that we made the second round of the playoffs despite dealing with an unprecedented slew of injuries all season. If we have the same lineup as last year and are more healthy (specifically, Spezza and Karlsson), then there's no reason to think this team isn't capable of a deep playoff push. The young guys will be better and are goaltending will still be excellent. Maybe it'll be the trade deadline before we make a significant addition.

We'll see, again, not convinced the teams needs to change all that much but if they go into the season with the same lineup for the most part they are banking on having 6 or more 20 goal guys, which is very possible. Think they are banking on one of Stone, Noesen, or Peumpel really stepping up as well. Maybe even Lazar if he has a great camp.

tim1_2 wrote:I think something important to remember for us is that we made the second round of the playoffs despite dealing with an unprecedented slew of injuries all season.  If we have the same lineup as last year and are more healthy (specifically, Spezza and Karlsson), then there's no reason to think this team isn't capable of a deep playoff push.  The young guys will be better and are goaltending will still be excellent.  Maybe it'll be the trade deadline before we make a significant addition.

Spezza and Karlsson were in the lineup when we lost in the 2nd round. Of course we all suspect that they will be at a different level next April/May than they were this year, but the point remains -- we were mostly a full, healthy team against the Penguins. Problem is that we did not have the playoff scorers -- the ones who were willing to lose teeth to score, like in the 1st round. I don't know how many such players we have in the system -- Alfie, Pageau, and then who? Neil, sure, but he doesn't have the skill. Maybe Greening, with a similar skill issue. Noesen may have it, but is he ready to step up as a rookie? We need someone like Briere, but apparently we are not on his short list of three.

We should improve on last year -- finish 5-6 or perhaps even get that 1st round home ice advantage, but still end up with a 2nd round exit.