SENS OFF-SEASON TALK 2013

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:Wouldn't touch Malone with the Leafs 20 foot pole.

Why?

He's absolutely awful.

He used to be awesome, are you saying that because he's oft injured?

SpezDispenser wrote:

He used to be awesome, are you saying that because he's oft injured?

Kind of answered your own question.  He's not worth that anymore, we'd be doing TB a favor with nothing to gain.

Hoags wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

He used to be awesome, are you saying that because he's oft injured?

Kind of answered your own question.  He's not worth that anymore, we'd be doing TB a favor with nothing to gain.

The year before last he played only 68 games, but scored 20 and had 48 points. The year before that he played 54 games and still had 14 goals and 38 points. Where's the rub here? Again, if it's that he's oft injured, I can understand that and he'd have to pass a physical.

So I heard on the Team1200 Hossa could be on the move... There's the PERFECT player for the Sens and I mean perfect. He doesn't have a NTC either. Chicago is going to have to make room going forward as well because Crawford will be getting 4.5-5 mil after next year, I don't think you want to break up that defense either, and you know they want to sign Bickell... That's a guy who still has a ton of hockey left in him too and is still an absolutely fantastic and great hall of fame player.

Chicago could walk off with a small ransom too.

NEELY wrote:So I heard on the Team1200 Hossa could be on the move... There's the PERFECT player for the Sens and I mean perfect.  He doesn't have a NTC either.  Chicago is going to have to make room going forward as well because Crawford will be getting 4.5-5 mil after next year, I don't think you want to break up that defense either, and you know they want to sign Bickell... That's a guy who still has a ton of hockey left in him too and is still an absolutely fantastic and great hall of fame player.

Chicago could walk off with a small ransom too.

Oh man! Want very, very, very badly. Don't be mad at us Hoss, it was Old Man Muckler, who can suck a Richard!

Here! Here! Here! Here!!

Want...so bad.... Might as well cry in advance when he goes to Detroit or somewhere else.

The other thing is with a budget team like the Sens spending to the cap will never be an issue so the fact Hossa's contract back dives the way it does and the cap hit stays with the team no matter what could be an advantage to the Sens and a big disadvantage to the Hawks. Yah, the next 3 years are tough to swallow and he's getting a little older but man, the guy can still play the game.

Word is Chicago might actually buy him out so he can play where he would like to as well. Who's word that is, I don't know but it is interesting none the less.

NEELY wrote:The other thing is with a budget team like the Sens spending to the cap will never be an issue so the fact Hossa's contract back dives the way it does and the cap hit stays with the team no matter what could be an advantage to the Sens and a big disadvantage to the Hawks.  Yah, the next 3 years are tough to swallow and he's getting a little older but man, the guy can still play the game.  

Word is Chicago might actually buy him out so he can play where he would like to as well.  Who's word that is, I don't know but it is interesting none the less.

Diddle...I wish I didn't know this because the odds are against us getting him, but Diddle me, that's a guy who would be perfect here.

Too bad he's fragile as a pane of glass, but still an awesome player when healthy.

SpezDispenser wrote:Want...so bad....  Might as well cry in advance when he goes to Detroit or somewhere else.

No reason for this not to happen if Chicago picks up some (half-ish) of the salary until it drops to $4m in 16-17.

Fragile pane of glass? He's been in 4 of the last 6 Cup finals, lol. If the Sens want a player to fill the hole on RW who's a LH shot and can still play and has a couple cup rings... Hossa is that guy. I don't think there is a chance that happens but that's the 100% perfect player to have in Ottawa for a few years to come.

Ticket sales and jerseys would increase as well if you land a guy like Hossa.  Melnyk might look at that, if he was serious about acquiring Nash who wasn't cheap either.

Hossa should have never ever left Ottawa maybe they can rectify that but I doubt Melnyk would ever spend that much, even on a class act like Hossa who is pretty much the opposite of Heatley.

I doubt Hossa has any bad feelings for Ottawa, Havlat didn't leave on the best terms either and he looks back fondly at his time here (I think he said he wouldn't mind coming back if such a scenario were to occur).

NEELY wrote:Fragile pane of glass?  He's been in 4 of the last 6 Cup finals, lol.  If the Sens want a player to fill the hole on RW who's a LH shot and can still play and has a couple cup rings... Hossa is that guy.  I don't think there is a chance that happens but that's the 100% perfect player to have in Ottawa for a few years to come.

It's cominge from Elliotte Friedman so there's a chance that there's somethinge to thise.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
It's cominge from Elliotte Friedman so there's a chance that there's somethinge to thise.

It sounds like pure speculation on his part though.

You can pretty much guarantee Chicago would take on some of the salary as well, perhaps the difference each year compared to his cap hit... so 7.9 mil real salary, 5.9 cap hit, retain 2 mil each year, 6 mil total. Cap hit stays with the Sens throughout and Chicago can get some decent pieces back like 1st next year, Greening, couple prospects...

2014 1st
Greening
Stone
Boroweicki

Something like that. Would be worth it because Ottawa is a legit contender with Hossa and the pressure that comes off that team as a whole is huge.

NEELY wrote:Fragile pane of glass?  He's been in 4 of the last 6 Cup finals, lol.  If the Sens want a player to fill the hole on RW who's a LH shot and can still play and has a couple cup rings... Hossa is that guy.  I don't think there is a chance that happens but that's the 100% perfect player to have in Ottawa for a few years to come.

Yes, he's that guy, but he gets hurt a fair bit.

NEELY wrote:You can pretty much guarantee Chicago would take on some of the salary as well, perhaps the difference each year compared to his cap hit... so 7.9 mil real salary, 5.9 cap hit, retain 2 mil each year, 6 mil total.  Cap hit stays with the Sens throughout and Chicago can get some decent pieces back like 1st next year, Greening, couple prospects...

2014 1st
Greening
Stone
Boroweicki

Something like that.  Would be worth it because Ottawa is a legit contender with Hossa and the pressure that comes off that team as a whole is huge.

Really? Would they take that package, because I'll drive those guys to the airport myself.

Hoags wrote:Ticket sales and jerseys would increase as well if you land a guy like Hossa.  Melnyk might look at that, if he was serious about acquiring Nash who wasn't cheap either.

Hossa should have never ever left Ottawa maybe they can rectify that but I doubt Melnyk would ever spend that much, even on a class act like Hossa who is pretty much the opposite of Heatley.

Nash wasn't cheap but Hossa is not an $8m player. It's not even about Melnyk being cheap. That's just a ridiculous amount to pay Hossa right now for the next 3 seasons, no less.

Hoags wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
It's cominge from Elliotte Friedman so there's a chance that there's somethinge to thise.

It sounds like pure speculation on his part though.

Kyper tweeted something about it too apparently. Chicago can't sit on Hossa's cap hit and the years after this teams will not take on his contract if he does decline which he will at 34 years old. If there is a time to move him or buy him out it's now because when he is 38, 39 and still has a huge cap hit it will be an enormous issue for Chicago when they will need to retain Toews, Crawford, Kane, Seabrook, etc. Saad will be in for a raise, Bickell they want to stay, etc.

It makes a lot of sense for Chicago to move him right now because his value is only going to go down from here on out and his cap hit will be a bigger problem each year because there is no getting rid of it if he retires.