GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Pittsburgh Penguins - 7:00pm ET - Wed. Feb. 13th, 2013

NEELY wrote:

wprager wrote:Looking at Karlsson's numbers, he leads the league in SOG and leads his team in +/-. The Sens, especially the last 5-6 games have had trouble finishing. Karlsson could easily have a half dozen more assists just in those last few games. He is second on the team in scoring as it is.

If the forwards could finish off with any consistency Karlsson would be leading D men in overalls coring and not just goals. The guy is the Norris trophy runaway right now. It's not even close.

Hands of Stone Condra seems to get all the chances too. You can't get goals that way.

Condra has been awesome. Silfverberg will start to score soon, you don't get that many chances and not scoring without a lot of bad luck. Michalek seemed to have found an extra gear in the second last night and was pretty solid after that.

They just need to keep putting the puck to the net and good things will happen.

It's not close at all. Watching Enstrom in Winnipeg, he's a force on the PP, especially when Buff in in the lineup, but he's absolutely not even close to what Karlsson is overall. Not in the same ballpark. Markov is a nice player, but the same applies. There's no one who's in Karlsson's ballpark right now IMO.

SpezDispenser wrote:It's not close at all. Watching Enstrom in Winnipeg, he's a force on the PP, especially when Buff in in the lineup, but he's absolutely not even close to what Karlsson is overall. Not in the same ballpark. Markov is a nice player, but the same applies. There's no one who's in Karlsson's ballpark right now IMO.

I've always considered Enstrom to be Karlsson-lite. Pierre "Penguins Mancrush" McGuire thinks Letang is like Karlsson but more physical. So, I guess, better than Karlsson

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:It's not close at all. Watching Enstrom in Winnipeg, he's a force on the PP, especially when Buff in in the lineup, but he's absolutely not even close to what Karlsson is overall. Not in the same ballpark. Markov is a nice player, but the same applies. There's no one who's in Karlsson's ballpark right now IMO.

I've always considered Enstrom to be Karlsson-lite. Pierre "Penguins Mancrush" McGuire thinks Letang is like Karlsson but more physical. So, I guess, better than Karlsson

Yeah, Letang is really, really good. Not sure he can bring the offense as consistently as Karlsson, but I guess it's close enough.

Karlsson is the best, that is all. His agility and speed coupled with his hockey sense (eg: stepping up to intercept passes seemingly before the pass even happens) and his vision/playmaking ability are ridiculous.

Yeah, Letang is really really good. But also, Letang plays with the two best forwards in the league and can't put up the same numbers as Karlsson. Letang does hit more, but ask any GM in the league, and they'd take Karlsson over Letang.

Norris talk
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=655400&navid=nhl:topheads

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:It's not close at all. Watching Enstrom in Winnipeg, he's a force on the PP, especially when Buff in in the lineup, but he's absolutely not even close to what Karlsson is overall. Not in the same ballpark. Markov is a nice player, but the same applies. There's no one who's in Karlsson's ballpark right now IMO.

I've always considered Enstrom to be Karlsson-lite. Pierre "Penguins Mancrush" McGuire thinks Letang is like Karlsson but more physical. So, I guess, better than Karlsson

Yeah, Letang is really, really good. Not sure he can bring the offense as consistently as Karlsson, but I guess it's close enough.

The thing that differentiate them is Karlsson is the best in the NHL at getting pucks through, Letang not so much

LeKing wrote:Norris talk
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=655400&navid=nhl:topheads

Very nice!

Beers. On. Ice.

It's not even close right now. Karlsson is so far ahead of everyone else it is laughable. Another Norris will slot him in as one of the all time great NHL D men and before he's 25. It's stupid at this point.

Don "the Douche" Brennan:

"Pittsburgh D Kris Letang is expected to return from lower body injury tonight. Good news for Pens, bad news for Sens #nhl #sens"

https://twitter.com/SunDoniB/status/301727921335312384

Bah.

I hesitate to state the obvious, but how would Don Brennan know?

I hate awards talk this early in a season. So many things can happen.

We don't need him to win the Norris every year to validate to ourselves how great he is, anyways. When you take into account we have numpties like Damien Cox participating in the voting…well

SpezDispenser wrote:I hesitate to state the obvious, but how would Don Brennan know?

Presser.

More from the douche:

"Marc-Andre Fleury starts in goal for Penguins #nhl #sens"

"Bylsma only is saying Letang and Niskanen are getting closer to returning. Game time decision. #nhl #sens"

shabbs wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I hesitate to state the obvious, but how would Don Brennan know?

Presser.

More from the douche:

"Marc-Andre Fleury starts in goal for Penguins #nhl #sens"

"Bylsma only is saying Letang and Niskanen are getting closer to returning. Game time decision. #nhl #sens"

So they might play is what he's backtracked to.

tim1_2 wrote:I hate awards talk this early in a season. So many things can happen.

We don't need him to win the Norris every year to validate to ourselves how great he is, anyways. When you take into account we have numpties like Damien Cox participating in the voting…well

Winning 2 Norris in a row is beyond special. Look at the players that have done it and all of them are all time greats. Once people have that much respect for Karlsson he becomes a player that gets every little benefit of the doubt and more ice than he already is given by other teams.

Optional skate for the Sens today... will need to wait for PMac's presser to see what the deal is.