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wprager wrote:Kyle Turris has left his Finnish team and is returning, citing personal reasons.
shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
sandysensfan wrote:shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Why would they cover that. He is talking to a Union that almost destroyed the Auto Industry. Not the first or last time that Union demands did damage to their employer. But Unions don't care. There is really no need for them in this day and age.
They were first brought in for the minors many decades ago who were being mistreated by the mine owners. There are laws now to protect workers. All Unions are is a detriment to the economy.
Is Fehr looking for a new job?
He is a master manipulator. His idea of negotiations is to frustrate the other side to negotiate with itself. I guess it's working.. but I think that stops as of now.
Those players were close to a deal on Tuesday.. but Fehr told them to hold on for a better offer.
Personally I hope that better offer does not come and Bettman cancels the season.
There was nothing wrong with that offer. You want labour peace.. then you can have it for 8 - 10 yrs.
Fehr's theory of a 5-yr CBA was that younger players would get to negotiate their own CBA when this one expires.
The players would like nothing better than to have a work stoppage during the 100th anniversary of the NHL.. they don't give a damn.. as long as they get their $$$.
I have lost a lot of respect for the players...
sandysensfan wrote:shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Why would they cover that. He is talking to a Union that almost destroyed the Auto Industry. Not the first or last time that Union demands did damage to their employer. But Unions don't care. There is really no need for them in this day and age.
That is quite the ignorant statement on your behalf, you can disagree but there is no need to be offensive and rude. You owe the previous poster an apology.rooneypoo wrote:sandysensfan wrote:shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Why would they cover that. He is talking to a Union that almost destroyed the Auto Industry. Not the first or last time that Union demands did damage to their employer. But Unions don't care. There is really no need for them in this day and age.
They were first brought in for the minors many decades ago who were being mistreated by the mine owners. There are laws now to protect workers. All Unions are is a detriment to the economy.
Is Fehr looking for a new job?
He is a master manipulator. His idea of negotiations is to frustrate the other side to negotiate with itself. I guess it's working.. but I think that stops as of now.
Those players were close to a deal on Tuesday.. but Fehr told them to hold on for a better offer.
Personally I hope that better offer does not come and Bettman cancels the season.
There was nothing wrong with that offer. You want labour peace.. then you can have it for 8 - 10 yrs.
Fehr's theory of a 5-yr CBA was that younger players would get to negotiate their own CBA when this one expires.
The players would like nothing better than to have a work stoppage during the 100th anniversary of the NHL.. they don't give a damn.. as long as they get their $$$.
I have lost a lot of respect for the players...
I've tried to be quiet about this, but... please, just shut up. You have no clue what you're talking about, and this kind of drivel is offensive to anyone with half a brain.
No need for unions. Yeah, let's go back to the 1820s, because that worked out for everyone.
Again, both sides are stupid in this, end of story. If you want to place blame, there's plenty to go around on both sides. The league is equally responsible for this, so please stop acting as a mouthpiece for Gary Bettman.
rooneypoo wrote:sandysensfan wrote:shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Why would they cover that. He is talking to a Union that almost destroyed the Auto Industry. Not the first or last time that Union demands did damage to their employer. But Unions don't care. There is really no need for them in this day and age.
They were first brought in for the minors many decades ago who were being mistreated by the mine owners. There are laws now to protect workers. All Unions are is a detriment to the economy.
Is Fehr looking for a new job?
He is a master manipulator. His idea of negotiations is to frustrate the other side to negotiate with itself. I guess it's working.. but I think that stops as of now.
Those players were close to a deal on Tuesday.. but Fehr told them to hold on for a better offer.
Personally I hope that better offer does not come and Bettman cancels the season.
There was nothing wrong with that offer. You want labour peace.. then you can have it for 8 - 10 yrs.
Fehr's theory of a 5-yr CBA was that younger players would get to negotiate their own CBA when this one expires.
The players would like nothing better than to have a work stoppage during the 100th anniversary of the NHL.. they don't give a damn.. as long as they get their $$$.
I have lost a lot of respect for the players...
I've tried to be quiet about this, but... please, just shut up. You have no clue what you're talking about, and this kind of drivel is offensive to anyone with half a brain.
No need for unions. Yeah, let's go back to the 1820s, because that worked out for everyone.
Again, both sides are stupid in this, end of story. If you want to place blame, there's plenty to go around on both sides. The league is equally responsible for this, so please stop acting as a mouthpiece for Gary Bettman.
SeawaySensFan wrote:sandysensfan wrote:shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Why would they cover that. He is talking to a Union that almost destroyed the Auto Industry. Not the first or last time that Union demands did damage to their employer. But Unions don't care. There is really no need for them in this day and age.
Unpopular as it may be, I'm gonna come right out and say I'm a Union man. All I can say is if not for Unions, there isn't even a minimum wage for non-union workers and those who pay well do so to keep their staff from organizing for the most part. Do you really think a company doesn't want to pay their people maybe a buck an hour or a bag of rice a month if they could?
Just because politicians keep repeating the line "in these economic times..." without really saying what that means doesn't mean the economy is all that bad. I'm spending more than ever just on gas... Oh yeah, the banks are making record profits too.
rooneypoo wrote:sandysensfan wrote:shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Why would they cover that. He is talking to a Union that almost destroyed the Auto Industry. Not the first or last time that Union demands did damage to their employer. But Unions don't care. There is really no need for them in this day and age.
They were first brought in for the minors many decades ago who were being mistreated by the mine owners. There are laws now to protect workers. All Unions are is a detriment to the economy.
Is Fehr looking for a new job?
He is a master manipulator. His idea of negotiations is to frustrate the other side to negotiate with itself. I guess it's working.. but I think that stops as of now.
Those players were close to a deal on Tuesday.. but Fehr told them to hold on for a better offer.
Personally I hope that better offer does not come and Bettman cancels the season.
There was nothing wrong with that offer. You want labour peace.. then you can have it for 8 - 10 yrs.
Fehr's theory of a 5-yr CBA was that younger players would get to negotiate their own CBA when this one expires.
The players would like nothing better than to have a work stoppage during the 100th anniversary of the NHL.. they don't give a damn.. as long as they get their $$$.
I have lost a lot of respect for the players...
I've tried to be quiet about this, but... please, just shut up. You have no clue what you're talking about, and this kind of drivel is offensive to anyone with half a brain.
No need for unions. Yeah, let's go back to the 1820s, because that worked out for everyone.
Again, both sides are stupid in this, end of story. If you want to place blame, there's plenty to go around on both sides. The league is equally responsible for this, so please stop acting as a mouthpiece for Gary Bettman.
NEELY wrote:rooneypoo wrote:sandysensfan wrote:shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Why would they cover that. He is talking to a Union that almost destroyed the Auto Industry. Not the first or last time that Union demands did damage to their employer. But Unions don't care. There is really no need for them in this day and age.
They were first brought in for the minors many decades ago who were being mistreated by the mine owners. There are laws now to protect workers. All Unions are is a detriment to the economy.
Is Fehr looking for a new job?
He is a master manipulator. His idea of negotiations is to frustrate the other side to negotiate with itself. I guess it's working.. but I think that stops as of now.
Those players were close to a deal on Tuesday.. but Fehr told them to hold on for a better offer.
Personally I hope that better offer does not come and Bettman cancels the season.
There was nothing wrong with that offer. You want labour peace.. then you can have it for 8 - 10 yrs.
Fehr's theory of a 5-yr CBA was that younger players would get to negotiate their own CBA when this one expires.
The players would like nothing better than to have a work stoppage during the 100th anniversary of the NHL.. they don't give a damn.. as long as they get their $$$.
I have lost a lot of respect for the players...
I've tried to be quiet about this, but... please, just shut up. You have no clue what you're talking about, and this kind of drivel is offensive to anyone with half a brain.
No need for unions. Yeah, let's go back to the 1820s, because that worked out for everyone.
Again, both sides are stupid in this, end of story. If you want to place blame, there's plenty to go around on both sides. The league is equally responsible for this, so please stop acting as a mouthpiece for Gary Bettman.
They needed them back then but now... not so much. People are educated, people have very specific skills, and people will pay out the Donkey for who ever makes them money.
I'm against people driving bolts into metal to make a car who get paid 40 dollars an hour. You need to know how yo use your hands and feet, they should be paid bare minimum.
Oglethorpe wrote:That is quite the ignorant statement on your behalf, you can disagree but there is no need to be offensive and rude. You owe the previous poster an apology.rooneypoo wrote:sandysensfan wrote:shabbs wrote:Live coverage of Don Fehr's speech on now... TSN and Sportsnet covering it...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/nhl-lockout-coverage/
Why would they cover that. He is talking to a Union that almost destroyed the Auto Industry. Not the first or last time that Union demands did damage to their employer. But Unions don't care. There is really no need for them in this day and age.
They were first brought in for the minors many decades ago who were being mistreated by the mine owners. There are laws now to protect workers. All Unions are is a detriment to the economy.
Is Fehr looking for a new job?
He is a master manipulator. His idea of negotiations is to frustrate the other side to negotiate with itself. I guess it's working.. but I think that stops as of now.
Those players were close to a deal on Tuesday.. but Fehr told them to hold on for a better offer.
Personally I hope that better offer does not come and Bettman cancels the season.
There was nothing wrong with that offer. You want labour peace.. then you can have it for 8 - 10 yrs.
Fehr's theory of a 5-yr CBA was that younger players would get to negotiate their own CBA when this one expires.
The players would like nothing better than to have a work stoppage during the 100th anniversary of the NHL.. they don't give a damn.. as long as they get their $$$.
I have lost a lot of respect for the players...
I've tried to be quiet about this, but... please, just shut up. You have no clue what you're talking about, and this kind of drivel is offensive to anyone with half a brain.
No need for unions. Yeah, let's go back to the 1820s, because that worked out for everyone.
Again, both sides are stupid in this, end of story. If you want to place blame, there's plenty to go around on both sides. The league is equally responsible for this, so please stop acting as a mouthpiece for Gary Bettman.
Your statement is also "drivel", stating that without unions we would have conditions like the 1820s. Labour laws are a tad bit different today than the 1820s. Unions are a necessary part of society, but to be fair, even the most ardent supporter of organized labour would have to admit that these organizations far exceed the role of protecting their members against unfair working conditions and providing collective bargaining. The fact that the large labour unions now actively participate in the political process through donations and endorsements without a vote from their membership, or try to drive public policy is what has caused backlash from non-union supporters in the middle class.
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