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What does it take to get Nash?

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796What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:28 pm

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Riprock wrote:Then add 11.6% in Ontario, compared to whatever the state taxes are.

3.07% in P.A.

4%-8.97% in N.Y.

1%-9.3% in C.A.




A lot of states don't even have income tax. Also, property tax in Canadian cities is insane. Nash will take home millions more playing in the US.

797What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:30 pm

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I doubt it will be millions more.

I just showed you the facts - higher federal taxes, and the state taxes vary. Property taxes? He can live anywhere he wants, he will be travelling most of the year. I think it's overblown.

798What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:31 pm

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I know for a fact that playing in Montreal on a 4 million dollar salary vs San Jose, the take home is a million more.

799What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:32 pm

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Riprock wrote:I doubt it will be millions more.

I just showed you the facts - higher federal taxes, and the state taxes vary. Property taxes? He can live anywhere he wants, he will be travelling most of the year. I think it's overblown.

If your in Ottawa for the next 5 years he will be buying a home.

Anyways, I've seen NHL paycheques and I know playing in the US you take home a lot more.

800What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:36 pm

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Well unless he can use those extra "millions" to buy a cup, then who cares.

801What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:46 pm

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Riprock wrote:Well unless he can use those extra "millions" to buy a cup, then who cares.

Haha said like someone who doesn't pay more income tax in one year than most people pay in their lives.

802What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:52 pm

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States also have a million deductions from taxes.

803What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:55 pm

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Well it's true - you're one to admit it too. You talk about all the players who can go to Russia and make more money in one year than people will make in a lifetime, but aside from that, they have nothing else to show.

Look at all the players NY, Philly and SJ buy and what have they to show recently? Aside from multiple playoff eliminations, and finals appearances, nothing! They can't buy a championship.

Nash has an opportunity to go to a young team, with Jason Spezza as his set up guy, and Norris winner Erik Karlsson as the guy leading the rush. Seems like a good fit to me.

804What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:00 pm

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someone on Dobber forums just mentioned that Toronto would be a better destination for him because it is colder in Ottawa during the winter........

805What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:03 pm

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Riprock wrote:Well it's true - you're one to admit it too. You talk about all the players who can go to Russia and make more money in one year than people will make in a lifetime, but aside from that, they have nothing else to show.

Look at all the players NY, Philly and SJ buy and what have they to show recently? Aside from multiple playoff eliminations, and finals appearances, nothing! They can't buy a championship.

Nash has an opportunity to go to a young team, with Jason Spezza as his set up guy, and Norris winner Erik Karlsson as the guy leading the rush. Seems like a good fit to me.

Ok, what sperates Ottawa from Pitts, Philly, Det, SJ, and NYR? Just to name 5 teams. Justify it in your mind all you want and hell, maybe you are right and Nash wants all of that. He had a chance at a cup in a lot of other places as well and can keep more of his money and stay out of the Canadian spot light.

I'm not going to pretend to know what Nash wants or is thinking because I have no idea. I do know that money is an issue.

806What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:04 pm

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Big Ev wrote:someone on Dobber forums just mentioned that Toronto would be a better destination for him because it is colder in Ottawa during the winter........

Well there you have it, lol. As true as that is Ottawa is one of the nicer cities in the NHL and the temp difference between Toronto and Ottawa is minimal.

807What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:22 pm

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Riprock wrote:I doubt it will be millions more.

I just showed you the facts - higher federal taxes, and the state taxes vary. Property taxes? He can live anywhere he wants, he will be travelling most of the year. I think it's overblown.

I got interviewed by schools in Louisiana and Florida, and so investigated the financial situations thoroughly -- what I would make, state taxes, benefits package, state medical plans. Naturally, when I got their benefits package, I had to weigh the pros and cons. In both situations, I would have had to spend about $300-400 / mth to get good medical coverage, but the state tax was laughably low. Florida had, I believe, none, and Louisiana had something ridiculous like 8%.

I have also had colleagues get jobs in Tennessee and Massachusetts. The unanimous consensus I hear from everyone, and from my own investigations, is that you pay much, much less in taxes (income taxes included), but that that is largely offset (for chumps average working stiffs, making, say, $60-100K) by what you have to pump into getting medical coverage.

It stands to reason that that trade off is a lot better for people who are making $500K+.

808What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:26 pm

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So if I understand you correctly, it's pretty much equal for middle class, but if you are a pro athlete, it's advantageous because you can afford the health care (especially since pro athletes get ridiculous health care)?

809What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:57 pm

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Seriously, bring your inflated trade price, franchise-crippling cap hit and dwindling production to Ottawa. I’ll pick you up at the airport.

@DownGoesBrown
Dear Rick Nash: I live in Ottawa. It’s a wonderful city, and you should absolutely not hesitate to waive your NTC to come here.

Well DBG is certainly all for it Laughing3

All the articles are saying he won't waive. Let some other team sell off their farm and Diddle up their cap space.

810What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:29 pm

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It's been rumoured that it's Nash's wife who does not want him to come to Ottawa... She wants the bright lights of a big city.

Good they go to the Rangers. Who will basically end up with 4 big name players with a cap hit close to 30M for all 4 (more or less) then fill in with lesser players to stay under the cap. Rangers like buying their Cup.

What will the Pens do if/and when Crosby goes down again. They have Malkin....

811What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:38 pm

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Hoags wrote:
Seriously, bring your inflated trade price, franchise-crippling cap hit and dwindling production to Ottawa. I’ll pick you up at the airport.

@DownGoesBrown
Dear Rick Nash: I live in Ottawa. It’s a wonderful city, and you should absolutely not hesitate to waive your NTC to come here.

Well DBG is certainly all for it Laughing3

All the articles are saying he won't waive. Let some other team sell off their farm and Diddle up their cap space.

Meh, we'll approach other options then, but Nash will run out of options soon enough

Who's saying he won't waive?

812What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:39 pm

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If by selling the farm, you mean trading a pig, a cow, a lamb, and a tractor for a prized stallon, then, by all means, let's sell the farm.

Sandy: key word = "rumoured". There's a rumour that Nash will pay Ottawa for a chance to play with them. Guess what, I just made that up.

813What does it take to get Nash? - Page 54 Empty Re: What does it take to get Nash? Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:40 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Who's saying he won't waive?

@JohnSmith, @AverageJoe, @KnowsJackSquat

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