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Trade Bonanza 2012! Speculation, Rumours, the Works!

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Riprock wrote:
ddt wrote:
Riprock wrote:All I know is if you are wanting out of a rebuilding team, you're unlikely to ant to go to another rebuilding team, otherwise you'd just stay in the city you love. So, if you subtract all the teams he would consider no better than Columbus, what are you left with? And then the teams that can actually afford him?


Hmmm, 29 teams?

More like 20 max. Edmonton's still a rebuilding team, Colorado's been a bottom finisher for a while, Iles too, Florida too....

Factor in that any team wanting him is going to have to trade away a lot, which makes little sense.

So, here's the dilemma. Nash agrees for Columbus to look to trade him, but Columbus refuses to trade him unless they get what they want. Since it is highly unlikely a team is going to part with a top 6 forward, a top 4 defenceman/a young #1 goalie, and a 1st + prospect(s), what do you expect to happen?

This is a no-win situation.

While Nash did ask to be traded, I wouldn't be surprised if it was because of what Columbus wanted.

If Nash increases his possible destinations it increases the odds that Columbus get what they want, or close to it. That should be in line with Nash's goal of helping the Jackets, unless that's not his goal at all.

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Maybe, or maybe Howson sticks to his guns. And how likely is it that a team looking to improve trades multiple huge key pieces for one?

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Riprock wrote:
NEELY wrote:
sandysensfan wrote:Did Vanc make a mistake trading Hodgson. They traded skill for thuggery. Sure Kassian can score and hit... I hope Vanc has a good PK.

To me Kassian is Downie 2.0.. better skilled but a dangerous player who when out of control will seriously hurt someone.

They probably did this deal to match up to go against Boston... but they have to get by Detroit or Nashville first.

HAHA so?

Oh, just that any player that purposely tries to injure another isn't good for the game.

Say what you want but having a guy like Lucic or Kassian on your team intimidates the other team. It pays off.

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There's a difference between finishing your check and playing physical and headhunting.

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NEELY wrote:
sandysensfan wrote:Did Vanc make a mistake trading Hodgson. They traded skill for thuggery. Sure Kassian can score and hit... I hope Vanc has a good PK.

To me Kassian is Downie 2.0.. better skilled but a dangerous player who when out of control will seriously hurt someone.

They probably did this deal to match up to go against Boston... but they have to get by Detroit or Nashville first.

HAHA so?

Good to know you're such a casanova with the ladies.

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Vancouver's PK is awesome btw. Pahlsson, Malhotra, Kesler... I don't have to even name any more.

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More info on the Nash situation from Team 1200's The Wiz:

The Wiz ‏ @Team1200TheWiz Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Rick Nash claims he asked Blue Jackets to rebuild team in order to help his career. Not simply ask for a trade.

SeawaySensFan

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Riprock wrote:More info on the Nash situation from Team 1200's The Wiz:

The Wiz ‏ @Team1200TheWiz Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Rick Nash claims he asked Blue Jackets to rebuild team in order to help his career. Not simply ask for a trade.

"TheWiz" should stick to trivia and annoying commercials.

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I'm inclined to believe Nash.

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Riprock wrote:I'm inclined to believe Nash.

Of course you are. Laugh1

Although, I'm not even sure what that tweet is supposed to mean.

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Ryan Miller is crying about the Gaustad trade saying "If I had more influence, Gaustad would still be here".

God, what a sad state of affair.

SeawaySensFan

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SpezDispenser wrote:Ryan Miller is crying about the Gaustad trade saying "If I had more influence, Gaustad would still be here".

God, what a sad state of affair.

I guess star players are supposed to be running teams now? See: The Nasher

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Riprock wrote:I'm inclined to believe Nash.

Of course you are. Laugh1

Although, I'm not even sure what that tweet is supposed to mean.

Pretty sure he's clarifying that Nash didn't just go out and demand a trade, rather it was more of a miscommunication that he expressed to Columbus his opinion that the team ought to rebuild to improve.

re: Miller on Gustad's trade:

A lot of players are vocally upset when their team trades a player. These guys are a family and when the team for whatever reason tardes a family member it hurts. Minny is another example. When Shultz was traded a lot of people were upset, i.e. Clutterbuck.

Barfallo is a mess. I think Miller will be the net to want out.

SeawaySensFan

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Riprock wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Riprock wrote:I'm inclined to believe Nash.

Of course you are. Laugh1

Although, I'm not even sure what that tweet is supposed to mean.

Pretty sure he's clarifying that Nash didn't just go out and demand a trade, rather it was more of a miscommunication that he expressed to Columbus his opinion that the team ought to rebuild to improve.

re: Miller on Gustad's trade:

A lot of players are vocally upset when their team trades a player. These guys are a family and when the team for whatever reason tardes a family member it hurts. Minny is another example. When Shultz was traded a lot of people were upset, i.e. Clutterbuck.



Barfallo is a mess. I think Miller will be the net to want out.

Then why submit a list? And why does the agent state, in public, that the list will remain the same in the summer?

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Ryan Miller is crying about the Gaustad trade saying "If I had more influence, Gaustad would still be here".

God, what a sad state of affair.

I guess star players are supposed to be running teams now? See: The Nasher

can't.....stop.....laughing Laughing3

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Riprock wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Riprock wrote:I'm inclined to believe Nash.

Of course you are. Laugh1

Although, I'm not even sure what that tweet is supposed to mean.

Pretty sure he's clarifying that Nash didn't just go out and demand a trade, rather it was more of a miscommunication that he expressed to Columbus his opinion that the team ought to rebuild to improve.

re: Miller on Gustad's trade:

A lot of players are vocally upset when their team trades a player. These guys are a family and when the team for whatever reason tardes a family member it hurts. Minny is another example. When Shultz was traded a lot of people were upset, i.e. Clutterbuck.



Barfallo is a mess. I think Miller will be the net to want out.

Then why submit a list? And why does the agent state, in public, that the list will remain the same in the summer?

Who the hell knows anymore. Probably has something to do with team saying "ok, give us a list. If we can find a team you would rather play for we will accomodate that. Otherwise you say you are content here."

All I know is to lump Rick Nash into the same category as douchebags is highly uncalled for. This is a guy that is a class act to a tee and lives and breathes the city of Columbus. Whatever is going on is a troubling situation for everyone involved - the team, Nash, the fans. Even if Nash said he would like to play elsewhere I have no problem with him making that request.

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Riprock wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Riprock wrote:I'm inclined to believe Nash.

Of course you are. Laugh1

Although, I'm not even sure what that tweet is supposed to mean.

Pretty sure he's clarifying that Nash didn't just go out and demand a trade, rather it was more of a miscommunication that he expressed to Columbus his opinion that the team ought to rebuild to improve.

re: Miller on Gustad's trade:

A lot of players are vocally upset when their team trades a player. These guys are a family and when the team for whatever reason tardes a family member it hurts. Minny is another example. When Shultz was traded a lot of people were upset, i.e. Clutterbuck.

Barfallo is a mess. I think Miller will be the net to want out.

No. Columbus said they're rebuilding, so he asked out to get them assets.

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I have zero problems with the trade request, but just like with Heatbag, the NTC should be torn up upon trade request. If Nash wants to break the contract then Columbus should be able to break the clause.

Until Nash realizes that he will be a douchebag in my book.

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