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Trade Bonanza 2012! Speculation, Rumours, the Works!

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SeawaySensFan


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tim1_2 wrote:Tuomo Ruutu was hurt in the Canes game last night. There goes the bonanza!!!!!

Not with The Nasher reportedly on the block.

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Columbus is apparently ready to listen to any offers for Rick Nash that will help them in the long run...

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/169430329629741060

Dreger talking about an RDS report.

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shabbs wrote:Columbus is apparently ready to listen to any offers for Rick Nash that will help them in the long run...

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/169430329629741060

Dreger talking about an RDS report.

The Rags have offered up Dubinsky, Kreider and a 1st says 2GOR, obviously originating elsewhere.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Columbus is apparently ready to listen to any offers for Rick Nash that will help them in the long run...

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/169430329629741060

Dreger talking about an RDS report.

The Rags have offered up Dubinsky, Kreider and a 1st says 2GOR, obviously originating elsewhere.

Holy lord, that's a decent return right there. Hard to imagine you could do too much better than that.

The Sens owe it to themselves to kick the tires on this one. I've never loved Nash's game and his inability to rise to big game situations, but with Jason Spezza and Milan Michalek...he could be deadly here.

Zibanejad + 1st + Wiercioch is all I can imagine paying personally, doubt that gets it done.

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Zidlicky still looks damn attractive to our blueline...

SeawaySensFan

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Columbus is apparently ready to listen to any offers for Rick Nash that will help them in the long run...

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/169430329629741060

Dreger talking about an RDS report.

The Rags have offered up Dubinsky, Kreider and a 1st says 2GOR, obviously originating elsewhere.

Holy lord, that's a decent return right there. Hard to imagine you could do too much better than that.

The Sens owe it to themselves to kick the tires on this one. I've never loved Nash's game and his inability to rise to big game situations, but with Jason Spezza and Milan Michalek...he could be deadly here.

Zibanejad + 1st + Wiercioch is all I can imagine paying personally, doubt that gets it done.

Let's hope Bryan Murray has a more vivid imagination and, at least, gets the Jackets to say "yes." Beyond that, it's up to The Nasher himself thanks to his NMC.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Columbus is apparently ready to listen to any offers for Rick Nash that will help them in the long run...

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/169430329629741060

Dreger talking about an RDS report.

The Rags have offered up Dubinsky, Kreider and a 1st says 2GOR, obviously originating elsewhere.

Holy lord, that's a decent return right there. Hard to imagine you could do too much better than that.

The Sens owe it to themselves to kick the tires on this one. I've never loved Nash's game and his inability to rise to big game situations, but with Jason Spezza and Milan Michalek...he could be deadly here.

Zibanejad + 1st + Wiercioch is all I can imagine paying personally, doubt that gets it done.

That would certainly not get it done. I'm guessing that any potential deal for Nash would have to include a good roster player in addition to picks/prospects. Hard to say who we could give up off the roster…maybe Cowen? But then that leaves us short on D.

Maybe if the deal were two first rounders, Z-Bad and Lehner? Just throwing something out there.

Really, I don't think there's any chance Nash would wind up here, but Columbus and Ottawa do like trading with each other!!

Edit: Per Dreger: To consider trading Nash, CBJ will insist on young roster players as prominent pieces of a deal. Location determined by Nash.

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tim1_2 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Columbus is apparently ready to listen to any offers for Rick Nash that will help them in the long run...

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/169430329629741060

Dreger talking about an RDS report.

The Rags have offered up Dubinsky, Kreider and a 1st says 2GOR, obviously originating elsewhere.

Holy lord, that's a decent return right there. Hard to imagine you could do too much better than that.

The Sens owe it to themselves to kick the tires on this one. I've never loved Nash's game and his inability to rise to big game situations, but with Jason Spezza and Milan Michalek...he could be deadly here.

Zibanejad + 1st + Wiercioch is all I can imagine paying personally, doubt that gets it done.

That would certainly not get it done. I'm guessing that any potential deal for Nash would have to include a good roster player in addition to picks/prospects. Hard to say who we could give up off the roster…maybe Cowen? But then that leaves us short on D.

Maybe if the deal were two first rounders, Z-Bad and Lehner? Just throwing something out there.

Really, I don't think there's any chance Nash would wind up here, but Columbus and Ottawa do like trading with each other!!

Edit: Per Dreger: To consider trading Nash, CBJ will insist on young roster players as prominent pieces of a deal. Location determined by Nash.

No chance on Cowen IMO. We got him, he's ours, we're lucky to have such a great young D-man to go with Karlsson. I'd (kinda) like Nash, but not for anything near that price personally.

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Michalek +picks + prospect for Nash!!!

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Bobby Mac weighs in on the Nash sweepstakes...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=387786

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Only because the salary helps out Columbus and gives Ottawa a little breathing room.

I would not trade Karlsson, Cowen, Spezza or Turris. Thankfully they wouldn't ask for Alfie. Lehner I wouldn't move, because we need him.

I would much rather do Foligno + Zibanejad + 1st (Foligno + 2 firsts).

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Riprock wrote:Michalek +picks + prospect for Nash!!!

I happen to really dig Michalek but I'm not sure that move would bother me too much. Let's look at the Rags supposed offer though: Dubinsky, Kreider, 1st...

Foligno, Zibaneblad, 1st... not far off, I'd say.

Edit: OK, I see that young Riprock agrees with me, as usual. Cheers



Last edited by SeawaySensFan on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:07 am; edited 1 time in total

tim1_2

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So do you trade a pile of high value assets for Nash, or wait and try to sign Parise in the off-season?

I vote for Parise.

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tim1_2 wrote:So do you trade a pile of high value assets for Nash, or wait and try to sign Parise in the off-season?

I vote for Parise.

Whoever adds The Nasher might be that much more attractive to Parise?

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Riprock wrote:Michalek +picks + prospect for Nash!!!

I happen to really dig Michalek but I'm not sure that move would bother me too much. Let's look at the Rags supposed offer though: Dubinsky, Kreider, 1st...

Foligno, Zibaneblad, 1st... not far off, I'd say.

Edit: OK, I see that young Riprock agrees with me, as usual. Cheers

Vertigo

Problem is, while I absolutely love Nash, trading 9MM for Nash is almost a lateral move, and as good as he is and can be on a good team, you'd probably want to add Nash on top of the top 6 you already have, not subtract.

And yeah it would be ridiculous if the Sens could trade for Nash AND sign Parise July 1. Not sure they'd have much cap room to do that (and re-sign Karlsson), but wow...

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Riprock wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Riprock wrote:Michalek +picks + prospect for Nash!!!

I happen to really dig Michalek but I'm not sure that move would bother me too much. Let's look at the Rags supposed offer though: Dubinsky, Kreider, 1st...

Foligno, Zibaneblad, 1st... not far off, I'd say.

Edit: OK, I see that young Riprock agrees with me, as usual. Cheers

Vertigo

Problem is, while I absolutely love Nash, trading 9MM for Nash is almost a lateral move, and as good as he is and can be on a good team, you'd probably want to add Nash on top of the top 6 you already have, not subtract.

And yeah it would be ridiculous if the Sens could trade for Nash AND sign Parise July 1. Not sure they'd have much cap room to do that (and re-sign Karlsson), but wow...

I think the least of our problems are finding the assets and having the cap space. The real problem is that The Nasher is probably too much of a big shot for Ottawa.

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tim1_2 wrote:So do you trade a pile of high value assets for Nash, or wait and try to sign Parise in the off-season?

I vote for Parise.

A trade means you have the guy though, a UFA is a crap shoot.

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If Nash goes anywhere, I bet it's Philly.

My gut says he does not move. He controls his destiny. But you never know.

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