Trade Bonanza 2012! Speculation, Rumours, the Works!

SpezDispenser wrote:

spader wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

spader wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/article/1130579--reality-check-derick-brassard-and-the-maple-leafs-trade-rumour-of-the-day

Fat Head's kickin' the tires on Brassard?

How good would Nash be on this team, right?!?

I can't even imagine how expensive he'd be. Karlsson? Spezza, 1st, ++?

I think it'd be more like Z-Bad + 1st + Puempel/Noesen +

I don't know. They'll want someone to walk onto the team. Take Nash away and what's left? Carter? Umberger?

Left on the team? As little as possible if I were GM. Everyone must go. Everyone.

Nash - gone for a big package of blue chippers

Carter - ditto

Umberger - anyone? I want a 2nd + blue chip please!

Brassard - blue chip or high 1st please!

Vermette - see Brassard

The Wiz - 1st or blue chip please!

Mason - will flip for established NHL goalie - may add if needed


Have I missed anyone?

Hoags wrote:How are they going to reach the floor next year ? (assuming there even will be a floor)

SpezDispenser wrote:

spader wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

spader wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/article/1130579--reality-check-derick-brassard-and-the-maple-leafs-trade-rumour-of-the-day

Fat Head's kickin' the tires on Brassard?

How good would Nash be on this team, right?!?

I can't even imagine how expensive he'd be. Karlsson? Spezza, 1st, ++?

I think it'd be more like Z-Bad + 1st + Puempel/Noesen +

I don't know. They'll want someone to walk onto the team. Take Nash away and what's left? Carter? Umberger?

Left on the team? As little as possible if I were GM. Everyone must go. Everyone.

Nash - gone for a big package of blue chippers

Carter - ditto

Umberger - anyone? I want a 2nd + blue chip please!

Brassard - blue chip or high 1st please!

Vermette - see Brassard

The Wiz - 1st or blue chip please!

Mason - will flip for established NHL goalie - may add if needed


Have I missed anyone?

SpezDispenser wrote:and Huselius for a 3rd

and Pahlsson for a 2nd (hopefully)

and Martinek for a mid round pick

and Lebda for a pick

...

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:How are they going to reach the floor next year ? (assuming there even will be a floor)

Cross that bridge when you come to it. Hopefully you can take back some near NHL talent that can play next year + you'd never be able to trade The Wiz anyway, so that's a bit left for the cap floor. Bottom line for me, you need to start fresh in Columbus and hope your franchise doesn't go bust in the meantime.

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spader wrote:
So, they have Johansen, Prospal, Letetsu, and Gillies up front. Then they dip into their prospect pool. Ya, they won't have to overpay the field of (basically no) UFAs this July.

They dump the team, they probably end up folding.

SpezDispenser wrote:

spader wrote:
So, they have Johansen, Prospal, Letetsu, and Gillies up front. Then they dip into their prospect pool. Ya, they won't have to overpay the field of (basically no) UFAs this July.

They dump the team, they probably end up folding.

Which of those guys I listed is worth keeping? Nash? Maybe, but the return might be worth it - say you get a blue chip prospect that's ready to step in and infuse some energy into that dead lineup. Carter? Not IMO, I would trade that guy without question. Pahlsson - as good as gone.

Perhaps you keep Vermette and Umberger, but this is a lineup that has shown no spunk, no energy at all. You need to purge them and get fresh faced youth in there.

SpezDispenser wrote:
Perhaps you keep Vermette and Umberger, but this is a lineup that has shown no spunk, no energy at all. You need to purge them and get fresh faced youth in there.

spader wrote:
I agree that the team is brutal, but you can't take a team like that and dump everyone for picks. You can't just sort it out later, you need to have a plan. If they drop the entire team, they'll only get UFAs that they massively overpay. They'd be worse off by the start of the next season.

The team is screwed, but I don't think trying to swap the entire roster out is the solution.

SpezDispenser wrote:

spader wrote:
I agree that the team is brutal, but you can't take a team like that and dump everyone for picks. You can't just sort it out later, you need to have a plan. If they drop the entire team, they'll only get UFAs that they massively overpay. They'd be worse off by the start of the next season.

The team is screwed, but I don't think trying to swap the entire roster out is the solution.

No worries though, if you're trading any of these guys to contenders, they'll likely want to send you a contract as well as the prospect/pick. There are several different ways to make it to the cap floor - and worrying about overpaying UFAs shouldn't be in anyone's mind. A lot of guys will have a hard time finding a job with any team, so when the BJs come calling on a 1 or 2 max year contract in August, it can suddenly look pretty appealing.

I think you can possibly insert some younger players as well next year - such as David Savard (full time), Calvert (full time), Kubalik etc. + another 4 or 5 that you acquire that can be streamlined straight into the NHL.

The only problem here is that they may not survive that kind of full rebuild - which is a major issue obviously.

Hoags wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:
Perhaps you keep Vermette and Umberger, but this is a lineup that has shown no spunk, no energy at all. You need to purge them and get fresh faced youth in there.

They need to blow up management over there (and coaching) before they blow up the team. Although I think they'll trade a lot of them.

I think they'll keep Nash, the only marketable player on the team, how are they going to sell tickets ? (as little as they're going to sell).

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

spader wrote:
I agree that the team is brutal, but you can't take a team like that and dump everyone for picks. You can't just sort it out later, you need to have a plan. If they drop the entire team, they'll only get UFAs that they massively overpay. They'd be worse off by the start of the next season.

The team is screwed, but I don't think trying to swap the entire roster out is the solution.

No worries though, if you're trading any of these guys to contenders, they'll likely want to send you a contract as well as the prospect/pick. There are several different ways to make it to the cap floor - and worrying about overpaying UFAs shouldn't be in anyone's mind. A lot of guys will have a hard time finding a job with any team, so when the BJs come calling on a 1 or 2 max year contract in August, it can suddenly look pretty appealing.

I think you can possibly insert some younger players as well next year - such as David Savard (full time), Calvert (full time), Kubalik etc. + another 4 or 5 that you acquire that can be streamlined straight into the NHL.

The only problem here is that they may not survive that kind of full rebuild - which is a major issue obviously.

Don't forget Yakupov

tim1_2 wrote:Tuomo Ruutu was hurt in the Canes game last night. There goes the bonanza!!!!!

tim1_2 wrote:Tuomo Ruutu was hurt in the Canes game last night. There goes the bonanza!!!!!

shabbs wrote:Columbus is apparently ready to listen to any offers for Rick Nash that will help them in the long run...

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/169430329629741060

Dreger talking about an RDS report.