Sens Lineup Card for 11/12

They have arbitration rights at that point don't they?

NEELY wrote:They have arbitration rights at that point don't they?

Not sure, but that's the word about D'Agostini, they wanted to avoid arbitration and get a deal done.

As for Kennedy...who really knows. He must be asking 3 and the Pens laughed and walked away. That's all I can really think.

The Pens apparently plan to come to terms with Kennedy before Friday.

NEELY wrote:Filatov/Spezza/Michalek
Foligno/Regin/Alfi
Greening/Zinanejad/Butler
Smith/Winchester/Neil
Condra

Phillips/Lee
Cowen/Karlsson
Gonchar/Rundblad
Carkner

Anderson
NEELY

I'm a little pissed off that they didn't sign me, but Auld is a good choice.

2 days afteer UFA day and I'll stick with this lineup. What is basically 8 rookies or 8 guys who will play thier first full season in The NHL is A LOT! That said, while this team is expected to do much, there is enough leadership and talent for them to surprise. MacLean has his work cut out for him to be sure but it's still a team that looks like it has a ton of character and hopefully positive results will follow. Either way, just stay competitve on most nights and I'll be happy as a fan. Progress is matters now, not the results.

I still think they challenge for a playoff spot if Anderson can play at the same level he has for 75% of the last 2 seasons.

Filatov - Spezza - Butler
Michalek - Regin - Alfredsson
Foligno - Zibanejad/Da Costa - Neil
Greening - Z.Smith - Winchester
Condra

Phillips - Lee
Cowen - Karlsson
Gonchar - Rundblad
Carkner
Kuba

Anderson
Auld

I'll stick with this. I think Regin can have a bounce back year, particularly with MacLean, Cameron and Reeds there. Don't think Zibanejad makes it, I think he goes back to Sweden and I think Da Costa gets a chance, but we'll see. At this point without the signing of a top 6 player, it's clear we're going for youth - and I support that as evidenced by the enthusiastic play we had last year after the trades.

People around the league say we've lost a lot. Greening could replace Fisher and his offense pretty quick while Z.Smith is no Kelly, but he'll be serviceable - same with Condra. The wildcards are Regin, Butler (can he do it over a full NHL schedule? I think so personally) and Da Costa (if Zibanejad doesn't make it).

Rundblad might get to run wild out there and create a ton with Karlsson and Gonchar because we have little scoring up front, so that too will be something to look for.

Anderson and his awesome 3.2 million cap hit should help us be competitive.

SpezDispenser wrote:Filatov - Spezza - Butler
Michalek - Regin - Alfredsson
Foligno - Zibanejad/Da Costa - Neil
Greening - Z.Smith - Winchester
Condra

Phillips - Lee
Cowen - Karlsson
Gonchar - Rundblad
Carkner
Kuba

Anderson
Auld

I'll stick with this. I think Regin can have a bounce back year, particularly with MacLean, Cameron and Reeds there. Don't think Zibanejad makes it, I think he goes back to Sweden and I think Da Costa gets a chance, but we'll see. At this point without the signing of a top 6 player, it's clear we're going for youth - and I support that as evidenced by the enthusiastic play we had last year after the trades.

People around the league say we've lost a lot. Greening could replace Fisher and his offense pretty quick while Z.Smith is no Kelly, but he'll be serviceable - same with Condra. The wildcards are Regin, Butler (can he do it over a full NHL schedule? I think so personally) and Da Costa (if Zibanejad doesn't make it).

Rundblad might get to run wild out there and create a ton with Karlsson and Gonchar because we have little scoring up front, so that too will be something to look for.

Anderson and his awesome 3.2 million cap hit should help us be competitive.

Zibanejad is much more NHL ready than Da Costa right now, I don't think there is anyway that he doesn't make it at this point to be totally honest. Da Costa, O'Brien, Daugvanins, and Keller if he resigns are probably the 4 guys that get called up if someone goes down. That said, if Regin can't hold his spot Da Costa is going to jump in there and run with it IMO, his skill level is off the charts.

If Anderson can play really well in the games where the "rookies" are a bit lost and steal a few of those, maybe get 5-8 wins that they should have had no business getting, I think things could be alright in Ottawa. He doesn't need to be the Hart Trophy winner but he needs to be an all-star.

NEELY wrote:Zibanejad is much more NHL ready than Da Costa right now, I don't think there is anyway that he doesn't make it at this point to be totally honest. Da Costa, O'Brien, Daugvanins, and Keller if he resigns are probably the 4 guys that get called up if someone goes down. That said, if Regin can't hold his spot Da Costa is going to jump in there and run with it IMO, his skill level is off the charts.

If Anderson can play really well in the games where the "rookies" are a bit lost and steal a few of those, maybe get 5-8 wins that they should have had no business getting, I think things could be alright in Ottawa. He doesn't need to be the Hart Trophy winner but he needs to be an all-star.

Diddle it, why not. Just let Zibanejad learn here. Fans love him, we have the coaching staff to do it, he looks like a kid who won't let his confidence get beat up too much. I like the point about Da Costa being the first call up, that might be a better idea. His skills are NHL ready, it's his little body that needs work, hopefully this summer is kind to him and he works his arse off.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:Zibanejad is much more NHL ready than Da Costa right now, I don't think there is anyway that he doesn't make it at this point to be totally honest. Da Costa, O'Brien, Daugvanins, and Keller if he resigns are probably the 4 guys that get called up if someone goes down. That said, if Regin can't hold his spot Da Costa is going to jump in there and run with it IMO, his skill level is off the charts.

If Anderson can play really well in the games where the "rookies" are a bit lost and steal a few of those, maybe get 5-8 wins that they should have had no business getting, I think things could be alright in Ottawa. He doesn't need to be the Hart Trophy winner but he needs to be an all-star.

Diddle it, why not. Just let Zibanejad learn here. Fans love him, we have the coaching staff to do it, he looks like a kid who won't let his confidence get beat up too much. I like the point about Da Costa being the first call up, that might be a better idea. His skills are NHL ready, it's his little body that needs work, hopefully this summer is kind to him and he works his arse off.

I still remember the game against Philly where Da Costa was just kind of coasting out there without the puck. He had a chance to really finish his check hard and just skated right by... he didn't see the ice much after that. People were complaing about his lack of ice time there but Clouston made the right call there by not putting him back out. That was the point where I think it was clear he wasn't NHL ready. NHL skill for sure, not a question. NHL grit, effort, and attitude, not so much right now. I'm not saying he doesn't have it in him, but at this point he hasn't put it into his game as a pro.

Filatov-Spezza-Michalek
Alfredsson-Zibanejad-Butler
Foligno-Regin-Condra
Greening-Smith-Neil
Winchester

Phillips-Rundblad
Cowen-Karlsson
Gonchar-Lee
Carkner

Anderson
Auld

NEELY wrote:

I still remember the game against Philly where Da Costa was just kind of coasting out there without the puck. He had a chance to really finish his check hard and just skated right by... he didn't see the ice much after that. People were complaing about his lack of ice time there but Clouston made the right call there by not putting him back out. That was the point where I think it was clear he wasn't NHL ready. NHL skill for sure, not a question. NHL grit, effort, and attitude, not so much right now. I'm not saying he doesn't have it in him, but at this point he hasn't put it into his game as a pro.

Yeah, he could stand some seasoning in the AHL. He also needs to pump a ton of iron this summer and get prepared for training camp.

Big Ev wrote:Filatov-Spezza-Michalek
Alfredsson-Zibanejad-Butler
Foligno-Regin-Condra
Greening-Smith-Neil
Winchester

Phillips-Rundblad
Cowen-Karlsson
Gonchar-Lee
Carkner

Anderson
Auld

Same lineup. I think it's pretty obvious what it will be this coming season. If Regin has a bad preseason like last year though, might as well through Da Costa in the mix because he might take it.

I don't know if it's obvious...they were preaching how ther eneeds to be more competition in camp this time around, saying that last year the coaching staff made it an easy camp with no competition for spots.

Big Ev wrote:I don't know if it's obvious...they were preaching how ther eneeds to be more competition in camp this time around, saying that last year the coaching staff made it an easy camp with no competition for spots.

That's true but the guys that will be competing for spots have no questions about their work ethic or where they stand in terms of their place on the team. I think the compeition will be at the center position and the last spot on the blueline. There are still a lot of givens in Ottawa. Like I said, Regin has a bad camp and he's getting waived for sure.

Cogliano is another guy that would makes sense to take a chance on.

Big Ev wrote:Filatov-Spezza-Michalek
Alfredsson-Zibanejad-Butler
Foligno-Regin-Condra
Greening-Smith-Neil
Winchester

Phillips-Rundblad
Cowen-Karlsson
Gonchar-Lee
Carkner

Anderson
Auld

I'm thinking Cowen will start in the A and Kuba will likely still be around...

There's no way Runbland makes it over Cowen. If anyone has to play half a season in the A while Kuba builds value it'll be Rundbland.

I think they find a way to move Kuba. They have made it pretty clear they want to open up roster spots from top to bottom... aside from goaltending where it's written in stone for now.

stempniaksen wrote:There's no way Runbland makes it over Cowen. If anyone has to play half a season in the A while Kuba builds value it'll be Rundbland.

Can I ask why you consistently call him Rundbland? It's Rundblad. Not bland like a cheap steak