Sens Lineup Card for 11/12

Regin aint no kid.

If we waive or trade Regin for nothing, I'm not gonna be pleased. This is all part of a rebuild, the kid had a rough year last year, you give him a chance to earn that spot again before discarding.

SpezDispenser wrote:If we waive or trade Regin for nothing, I'm not gonna be pleased. This is all part of a rebuild, the kid had a rough year last year, you give him a chance to earn that spot again before discarding.

It's called training camp. Like I have said probably 500 times, if he has a camp like he did last year, he will be waived. There are way too many prospects and kids looking for a chance. Regin has had 2 years to solidify himself as a top 9 guy... if he can't crack the weakest offense in The NHL, he isn't an NHL player.

SpezDispenser wrote:If we waive or trade Regin for nothing, I'm not gonna be pleased. This is all part of a rebuild, the kid had a rough year last year, you give him a chance to earn that spot again before discarding.

He's 25, there's not much room for patience.

Seriously, there are guys like Da Costa, O'Brien, Zibanejad, and even to a lesser extent a guy like Daugvanins who are looking for a chance to crack the lineup. How much better is Regin going to be or how much better he is right now than those guys? Minimal is the answer to both.

I don't want to see the guy fail but he's on a 1 year deal for 1 mil.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:If we waive or trade Regin for nothing, I'm not gonna be pleased. This is all part of a rebuild, the kid had a rough year last year, you give him a chance to earn that spot again before discarding.

It's called training camp. Like I have said probably 500 times, if he has a camp like he did last year, he will be waived. There are way too many prospects and kids looking for a chance. Regin has had 2 years to solidify himself as a top 9 guy... if he can't crack the weakest offense in The NHL, he isn't an NHL player.

My question is: why waive him, why not just put him in the press box until there's an injury, then put him back in the lineup? It's not like he's a bad player, he's had success at the pro level before, we've all seen the talent and the hard work.

I agree, he's on thin ice - that's definite, but this is an assessment year for a lot of these guys before the rest of the prospects demand attention.

Regin is not going to develop any further for the most part, he is what he is and that's an unknwon. Last year may have been a fluke or the season before with his playoffs may have been a fluke, I don't know. This year and probably as early as pre-season people will find out what he's about.

Giving players a chance to develop in The NHL over a guy who is basically entering his prime as a hockey player who might not be able to cut it in The NHL, will probably be the way to go.

Regin isn't a kid.

NEELY wrote:Regin is not going to develop any further for the most part, he is what he is and that's an unknwon. Last year may have been a fluke or the season before with his playoffs may have been a fluke, I don't know. This year and probably as early as pre-season people will find out what he's about.

Giving players a chance to develop in The NHL over a guy who is basically entering his prime as a hockey player who might not be able to cut it in The NHL, will probably be the way to go.

Regin isn't a kid.

again I think clouston played a part in regin sucking so much the guy didn't have anyone to play off or with for most of the team. some guys can create offense by themselves some can use one or 2 good players around them/ they can't all be spezza. I believe he'll do much better on the second and maybe even on the 3rd as the C this year. foligno could be a good fit with regin. goes to those hard areas to retrieve the puck. I think confidence will be key this year for regin. if he can get on a roll he'll show us a lot more... then again I'm a reganite! haha

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:Regin is not going to develop any further for the most part, he is what he is and that's an unknwon. Last year may have been a fluke or the season before with his playoffs may have been a fluke, I don't know. This year and probably as early as pre-season people will find out what he's about.

Giving players a chance to develop in The NHL over a guy who is basically entering his prime as a hockey player who might not be able to cut it in The NHL, will probably be the way to go.

Regin isn't a kid.

again I think clouston played a part in regin sucking so much the guy didn't have anyone to play off or with for most of the team. some guys can create offense by themselves some can use one or 2 good players around them/ they can't all be spezza. I believe he'll do much better on the second and maybe even on the 3rd as the C this year. foligno could be a good fit with regin. goes to those hard areas to retrieve the puck. I think confidence will be key this year for regin. if he can get on a roll he'll show us a lot more... then again I'm a reganite! haha

That's worth investigating. It's fair to wipe the slate clean and give him a shot to get back to 09/10 form.

spader wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:Regin is not going to develop any further for the most part, he is what he is and that's an unknwon. Last year may have been a fluke or the season before with his playoffs may have been a fluke, I don't know. This year and probably as early as pre-season people will find out what he's about.

Giving players a chance to develop in The NHL over a guy who is basically entering his prime as a hockey player who might not be able to cut it in The NHL, will probably be the way to go.

Regin isn't a kid.

again I think clouston played a part in regin sucking so much the guy didn't have anyone to play off or with for most of the team. some guys can create offense by themselves some can use one or 2 good players around them/ they can't all be spezza. I believe he'll do much better on the second and maybe even on the 3rd as the C this year. foligno could be a good fit with regin. goes to those hard areas to retrieve the puck. I think confidence will be key this year for regin. if he can get on a roll he'll show us a lot more... then again I'm a reganite! haha

That's worth investigating. It's fair to wipe the slate clean and give him a shot to get back to 09/10 form.

yes. it will be hard to focus on that with mclean coming in as there's going to be so much to evaluate and he and the team will have to adjust to the new system. for some it might come easy for others it might be harder. I have a feeling the whole puck postion aspect my work out good for regin.

NEELY wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:Regin has some value. I'm sure if he was shopped we'd get something back in return. Besides I still have high hopes for him and not only could he fall into the 2C position but If we're going for 3 offensive lines he'd be great on the 3rd. he can also be a great winger. we'll part ways with Winnie before Regin if we have to make space. seriously I can't believe what I'm reading. this is a kid that blew everyone away 2 years ago. yes he sucked last year but the potential is still there. to give up on him for anything else then to put a package together for a better player/prospect is insane at this point. maybe later in the year we'll get a better ideqa but at this moment all I hear is brain farts.

??? He had a good playoff series, basically 6 games of the season where he was "wow". The rest of his regualr season was solid, nothing special.

People have weird memories. SpezD is the only one here who was blowing up Regin's tires. He even anointed him as our 2C in his signature. Given that SD is our most prolific poster I think some of that irrational exuberance rubbed off on a few people.

And even in the playoffs, that was a very small sample size and he scored 3 goals in 6 games. Good but hardly lighting it up. If he scored 10 goals in 20 games then I would have been impressed.

wprager wrote:
People have weird memories. SpezD is the only one here who was blowing up Regin's tires. He even anointed him as our 2C in his signature. Given that SD is our most prolific poster I think some of that irrational exuberance rubbed off on a few people.

And even in the playoffs, that was a very small sample size and he scored 3 goals in 6 games. Good but hardly lighting it up. If he scored 10 goals in 20 games then I would have been impressed.

I really doubt that very highly. I think a lot of people, probably Neely included, know exactly what they saw from Regin, not only in the NHL, but in the AHL as well. He's barely scratched the surface of his NHL potential, and with the underrated shot he has, the size that people tend to forget and his 'no fear' attitude in corners, I think he's the prototypical new player in this NHL.

The problem for him is he's running out of time here. We have too many prospects that won't be held back, he's got to come out of the gate and make the Sens' brass take notice of him this camp, or he's in for another disappointing season.

My expectations were raised after that playoff 2 years ago for sure, doesn't mean he was anything but awful last year. I have never said he doesn't have the talent or hockey sense to make a name for himself in The NHL, all I ever said was if he has a camp like last year or a bad start to the season, he will probably be waived.

I didn't think he was awful, he just couldn't score to save his life. Something he'll have to fix very quickly this pre-season.

SpezDispenser wrote:

wprager wrote:
People have weird memories. SpezD is the only one here who was blowing up Regin's tires. He even anointed him as our 2C in his signature. Given that SD is our most prolific poster I think some of that irrational exuberance rubbed off on a few people.

And even in the playoffs, that was a very small sample size and he scored 3 goals in 6 games. Good but hardly lighting it up. If he scored 10 goals in 20 games then I would have been impressed.

I really doubt that very highly. I think a lot of people, probably Neely included, know exactly what they saw from Regin, not only in the NHL, but in the AHL as well. He's barely scratched the surface of his NHL potential, and with the underrated shot he has, the size that people tend to forget and his 'no fear' attitude in corners, I think he's the prototypical new player in this NHL.

The problem for him is he's running out of time here. We have too many prospects that won't be held back, he's got to come out of the gate and make the Sens' brass take notice of him this camp, or he's in for another disappointing season.

Regin reminds me of Benoit Pouliot. A lot. We all know how he's done so far.

SpezDispenser wrote:I didn't think he was awful, he just couldn't score to save his life. Something he'll have to fix very quickly this pre-season.

Had a lot more to do with himself than bad luck. Maybe it was a sophomore slump, maybe it wasn't, we'll see.

NEELY wrote:
Had a lot more to do with himself than bad luck. Maybe it was a sophomore slump, maybe it wasn't, we'll see.

I guess. There was a lot of bad luck, then there was a complete lack of confidence. He can afford neither this training camp, I definitely agree there.

SpezDispenser wrote:

wprager wrote:
People have weird memories. SpezD is the only one here who was blowing up Regin's tires. He even anointed him as our 2C in his signature. Given that SD is our most prolific poster I think some of that irrational exuberance rubbed off on a few people.

And even in the playoffs, that was a very small sample size and he scored 3 goals in 6 games. Good but hardly lighting it up. If he scored 10 goals in 20 games then I would have been impressed.

I really doubt that very highly. I think a lot of people, probably Neely included, know exactly what they saw from Regin, not only in the NHL, but in the AHL as well. He's barely scratched the surface of his NHL potential, and with the underrated shot he has, the size that people tend to forget and his 'no fear' attitude in corners, I think he's the prototypical new player in this NHL.

The problem for him is he's running out of time here. We have too many prospects that won't be held back, he's got to come out of the gate and make the Sens' brass take notice of him this camp, or he's in for another disappointing season.

What part do you doubt? That constantly seeing your signature touting him as the next 2C (while Fisher was still here, I might add) coloured others' optimism?

He may have size but he wasn't using it at all. I was on his case a few times last year for playing small, and then he gets injured doing exactly what I wished he didn't. If he had leaned into that contact instead of shrinking from then it's probably a decent hit and both players bounce off each other; maybe he even "wins" it. Instead he tries to avoid it and ends up getting destroyed. He wasn't fearless going into the corners last year, not like the year before, and after this shoulder injury I wonder if he will regress even further.