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All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011

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331All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 12:58 pm

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Michallica wrote:Perhaps...I'm not saying its impossible, but it is still improbable just because of the sheer magnitude of the comeback. Again, I really really hope I'm wrong on this though.

I guess if we want to look at it statistically now, we have to trace back to how many times a team was down 3-0 and came back to force game 7. and then from there you see how many teams completed the comeback or lost in game 7. I don't have the details on this (maybe some stat guru does) but when I heard about this on the radio, I think the team still lost game 7 more than it won

I briefly tried looking that up this morning to make my point but then did not find something right away. I think you are right, and I think at least part of the reason is that:
1. The team that built up the 3-0 lead in the first place is probably a stronger team
2. The team that came back probably spent a lot of energy doing so

The power of the threat embarrassment is quite, well, powerful.

332All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 1:06 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Lidstrom so badly outclass Thornton, Marleau and Boyle that it's almost comical. Let's see what happens in Game 7.

That's kind of a pointless comparison when it's largely been the "other guys" for both teams that play big roles.

I wouldn't really say that Thornton and Boyle are being "outclassed", but Marleau has been a BIG disappointment so far. Heatley hasn't been great either, but guys like Couture, Clowe, Pavelski, Ian White (who knew), and even Torrey Mitchell, Kyle Wellwood, Setoguchi, and Douglas Murray have been playing quite well. San Jose is a really deep team (I might even argue they are deeper than Detroit). Other than the Heatley-factor, I really like SJ!!!!


It's a team game yeah, but Datsyuk has been ridiculous this series. Zetterberg too. Lidstrom to a lesser degree. Datsyuk has made it known to whoever didn't know before that he's the best player in the NHL not named Crosby - and even that's debatable now.

The supporting casts for both teams have been very good, but when the chips are down, the big boys from Detroit have killed it.

333All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 1:22 pm

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Datsyuk is a very unique, incredibly gifted player, at both ends of the ice. He's certainly in a league of his own, especially in this series. I'd argue that he's a more complete player than Sid, but that's an argument for another thread/day.

And he's only Big. That's why I call him Big Joe. Chara is Jumbo.

334All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 4:00 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:I have to say, the wings might take this. Sharks choke again. I hope so anyways as it will be interesting to see what Doug Wilson will have to do to the roster this summer.

Wilson doesn't have a lot of options. He's not getting rid of the young guys -- Pavelski, Setogouchi, Couture, Clowe... and his big 3 all have NTC - so he's about stuck.

335All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 4:11 pm

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sandysensfan wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:I have to say, the wings might take this. Sharks choke again. I hope so anyways as it will be interesting to see what Doug Wilson will have to do to the roster this summer.

Wilson doesn't have a lot of options. He's not getting rid of the young guys -- Pavelski, Setogouchi, Couture, Clowe... and his big 3 all have NTC - so he's about stuck.

Yeah, not too many options at all in SJ.

336All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 4:20 pm

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Heatley and a 5th for Michalek, a 2nd and Kuba as an f-you for Cheechoo? Forgive and forget?

I'm kidding. I think.

337All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 4:27 pm

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dennycrane wrote:Heatley and a 5th for Michalek, a 2nd and Kuba as an f-you for Cheechoo? Forgive and forget?

I'm kidding. I think.

No way, Jose.

338All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 6:22 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
dennycrane wrote:Heatley and a 5th for Michalek, a 2nd and Kuba as an f-you for Cheechoo? Forgive and forget?

I'm kidding. I think.

No way, Jose.

No way San Jose?


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339All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Wed May 11, 2011 6:49 pm

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^Yeah Prags, that was the joke. Tongue

340All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 1:04 pm

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I've really enjoyed Fat Wellwood's game in SJ. I wonder how much $$ he'll get this summer? 1.5 minimum IMO, he can check now and he's a PP wizard.

341All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 1:23 pm

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dennycrane wrote:Heatley and a 5th for Michalek, a 2nd and Kuba as an f-you for Cheechoo? Forgive and forget?

I'm kidding. I think.

Steal for us.

342All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 1:32 pm

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Big Ev wrote:
dennycrane wrote:Heatley and a 5th for Michalek, a 2nd and Kuba as an f-you for Cheechoo? Forgive and forget?

I'm kidding. I think.

Steal for us.

Yeah, Heatley's awesome. 26 goals is totally worth 7.5 million because he's a most complete player. That would be most good! Most good...



343All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 1:59 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
dennycrane wrote:Heatley and a 5th for Michalek, a 2nd and Kuba as an f-you for Cheechoo? Forgive and forget?

I'm kidding. I think.

Steal for us.

Yeah, Heatley's awesome. 26 goals is totally worth 7.5 million because he's a most complete player. That would be most good! Most good...


I couldn't care less what he makes, we have lots of cap space! Michalek is a huge disappointment.

344All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 2:00 pm

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and no Michalek's not a two-way forward, because he can't contribute on offense anymore!

345All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 2:01 pm

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Spezza also got the same amount of goals roughly, for the same money.

346All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 2:03 pm

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Big Ev wrote:Spezza also got the same amount of goals roughly, for the same money.

He's literally 10 times the playmaker + he scores the same amount of goals.

347All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 2:04 pm

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Big Ev wrote:and no Michalek's not a two-way forward, because he can't contribute on offense anymore!

Uh...we'll see about that shall we? I'd rather pay him 4.2 and have him come close to 20 goals than pay 7.5 for Dynamic Dany Heatley and his bionic knee, lung and eye (not to mention his attitude which can suck my Donkey).

EDIT: Let's put it this way, I'll take my chances of Glass Michalek a thousand times before I take my chances on a used up goal-scorer making 7.5 million.



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348All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 - Page 23 Empty Re: All Playoff Talk, All the Time 2011 Thu May 12, 2011 2:05 pm

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Big Ev wrote:I couldn't care less what he makes, we have lots of cap space! Michalek is a huge disappointment.

Disappointment? Go and see what Sharks' fans have to say about Heatley!

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