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Campoli to the Blackhawks for a 2nd and Potulny

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Getzlaf, Perry 2.0?

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Hoags wrote:Murray was supposedly trying to make deals as early as October/November. There were no takers.

Most teams will not make significant changes until the deadline.

Nowadys once you your roster set at training camp you can forget about making significant changes to it until the deadline (besides sending people up/down from the AHL).

I have a hard time with that - mostly because I don't understand it at all. Fisher should have been made available in December - I really don't think he was. I think Kovalev was, ditto Leclaire, ditto Kuba, but those aren't what teams want. The minute Fisher + Kelly + Ruutu to a much lesser extent + Campoli were put on the market, I think teams would absolutely be looking at acquiring these players. And all it takes is one team to pull a trade to make others start to realize that it's very possible to pull off.

I just think Murray didn't want to give up hope on Fisher and those guys - and that's admirable, but there comes a time...

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Big Ev wrote:Getzlaf, Perry 2.0?

Campoli to the Blackhawks for a 2nd and Potulny - Page 5 432129

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Big Ev wrote:
marakh wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
marakh wrote:Wake me up on June 24, it's gonna be the best day of the year.
So DOrion wants quality over quantity? Package everything you want and get 2 top 10 picks.

Diddle yeah! Don't lose the position we're in now though, whatever happens, make sure the Sens' pick is in the top 4.

Can you imagine something like LAndeskog/Huberdeau or RNH/Strome

1st pick: Ggoabriel Landeskog

2nd pick: Ryan Strome

3rd pick: Daniel Catenacci

4th pick: Shane Prince

Dare to dream

Not sure where teams rank Zibanejad but I heard he's quite a player:

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Hoags wrote:Murray was supposedly trying to make deals as early as October/November. There were no takers.

Most teams will not make significant changes until the deadline.

Nowadys once you your roster set at training camp you can forget about making significant changes to it until the deadline (besides sending people up/down from the AHL).

I have a hard time with that - mostly because I don't understand it at all. Fisher should have been made available in December - I really don't think he was. I think Kovalev was, ditto Leclaire, ditto Kuba, but those aren't what teams want. The minute Fisher + Kelly + Ruutu to a much lesser extent + Campoli were put on the market, I think teams would absolutely be looking at acquiring these players. And all it takes is one team to pull a trade to make others start to realize that it's very possible to pull off.

I just think Murray didn't want to give up hope on Fisher and those guys - and that's admirable, but there comes a time...

Well no team tanks in December no matter where you are in the standings.

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marakh wrote: Not sure where teams rank Zibanejad but I heard he's quite a player:


Yes please Smile

He seems to be rocketing up the standings and is in my own personal top 10-15.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0rfboLYUD8

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marakh wrote:
Well no team tanks in December no matter where you are in the standings.

I'm not saying I wanted Ottawa to tank, I'm saying I knew they would by December. And it's not because I had a crystal ball or anything, it's because they were putrid under Hartsburg and Clouston came in and turned it around - to a degree. Then the year we made it to the POs, there were a ton of issues on that team, the 12 game winning streak smoothed over a whole whack of problems. Then, to start the way we did this year with nothing on the roster that suggested we'd bounce back? I'd have completely changed the team - like Murray's done now.

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NEELY wrote:Condra and Butler are the real deals, so is Greening. He has limited offense but he is a well above average skater, a huge body, and plays hard.
If Butler was a little faster, he would be really dangerous. I still think he can be a top 6 forward, but add speed to his skills and he would have top line potential.

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If Butler was a little faster, he would be really dangerous. I still think he can be a top 6 forward, but add speed to his skills and he would have top line potential.

Geez, am I missing something? From what I've seen Butler's quite speedy.

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If Butler was a little faster, he would be really dangerous. I still think he can be a top 6 forward, but add speed to his skills and he would have top line potential.

Geez, am I missing something? From what I've seen Butler's quite speedy.

Yeah, he's a good skater.

Don't think he's a top-line guy, though. Not that that's a bad thing.

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I'm not very high on Catenacci, nothing I've seen from him makes me believe his ceiling is anything more than a fringe second line winger.

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asq2 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
If Butler was a little faster, he would be really dangerous. I still think he can be a top 6 forward, but add speed to his skills and he would have top line potential.

Geez, am I missing something? From what I've seen Butler's quite speedy.

Yeah, he's a good skater.

Don't think he's a top-line guy, though. Not that that's a bad thing.
Let me clarify, he has poor acceleration, although he may be able to improve it a bit.

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Tuk Tuk wrote:I'm not very high on Catenacci, nothing I've seen from him makes me believe his ceiling is anything more than a fringe second line winger.

All I can add to that is All hail Dave Mustaine.

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notime to talk cuz my internet connection is crap here in komodo but just wanted to give my two cents.
love what BM has done. decent return for our guys especially comparing what other teams got for theirs. maybe what LA offered for penner was close to what they offered for fisher?

again, murray proved he an be the guy for us to stay in office. can't wait for the draft and 1st july.

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I love the picture the Sun uses for their article about this trade. LOL

Campoli to the Blackhawks for a 2nd and Potulny - Page 5 CAM256

It looks likes he's basically going hahaha suckers I'm going to a playoff team so Razz.

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Oglethorpe wrote:
asq2 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
If Butler was a little faster, he would be really dangerous. I still think he can be a top 6 forward, but add speed to his skills and he would have top line potential.

Geez, am I missing something? From what I've seen Butler's quite speedy.

Yeah, he's a good skater.

Don't think he's a top-line guy, though. Not that that's a bad thing.
Let me clarify, he has poor acceleration, although he may be able to improve it a bit.

From what I've seen of Butler he seems to get to the right place at the right time a lot and if he had a touch more finish or slightly better passes or retrieval he'd have another 3 or 4 goals.

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
asq2 wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
If Butler was a little faster, he would be really dangerous. I still think he can be a top 6 forward, but add speed to his skills and he would have top line potential.

Geez, am I missing something? From what I've seen Butler's quite speedy.

Yeah, he's a good skater.

Don't think he's a top-line guy, though. Not that that's a bad thing.
Let me clarify, he has poor acceleration, although he may be able to improve it a bit.

From what I've seen of Butler he seems to get to the right place at the right time a lot and if he had a touch more finish or slightly better passes or retrieval he'd have another 3 or 4 goals.

He has a ton of finish, that's all he seems to do is score goals. Finding holes or open ice in the offensive zone seems to be the problem for him once in a while but against defensive teams it's tough to find the holes even for the best players. He also needs to find a way to use his shot on the PP as he doesn't seem to get the scoring chances a lot of other goal scorers do while a man up. Might be the whole PP system as well as Ottawa's is terrible.

With a little more experience and confidence, Butler could easily be a 30 goal guy playing next to Spezza. His speed is definatly an asset, his shot his world class, and he obviously has a good work ethic and attitude. We'll see how the rest of the year pans out for the guy but I would guess he will finish the year with 10 or 11 goals.

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All I was trying to say was that I've seen Butler get to the front of the net a lot, receive a pass at just the right time, get a shot off but not score. That could be 1 - He didn't get a very good pass. 2 - He didn't receive the pass well. or 3 - He needs a bit more finish.

By a bit more I definitely am not trying to say he can't score and doesn't have a touch for scoring goals it's just that maybe he needs to hone that skill a bit more? I'm not even sure that's the problem just one possibility.

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