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Methinks that if that happens, one of karlson or Rundblad is gonzo. I excluded Cowen from there because it's a different skillset

TheAvatar wrote:Methinks that if that happens, one of karlson or Rundblad is gonzo. I excluded Cowen from there because it's a different skillset

Wouldn't it have to be Rundblad in your scenario?

It depends what forward you're targetting. Rundblad has not proven much at this level while Karlsson has (I AM NOT ADVOCATING WE TRADE KARLSSON) ...

I wonder if we could get Lombardi to send over Oscar Moller in exchange for Kovalev and maybe a mid round pick. Lombardi is loathe to pay the going rate for top 6 talent, and Moller seems to be have fallen down the depth charts in LA. If I am Murray that might be something I'd look at. Consider we are becoming Team Sweden it may motivate Oscar.

TheAvatar wrote:It depends what forward you're targetting. Rundblad has not proven much at this level while Karlsson has (I AM NOT ADVOCATING WE TRADE KARLSSON) ...

Your point has been made clear, and I realize we are just talking out our Donkey right now.

Oglethorpe wrote:I wonder if we could get Lombardi to send over Oscar Moller in exchange for Kovalev and maybe a mid round pick. Lombardi is loathe to pay the going rate for top 6 talent, and Moller seems to be have fallen down the depth charts in LA. If I am Murray that might be something I'd look at. Consider we are becoming Team Sweden it may motivate Oscar.

Wayne Simmonds? Haha, one can dream.

CockRoche wrote:And Landeskog is who I think the Sens need the most; based on his leadership qualities alone.

Jason Smith is an awesome leader. Still was very mediocre in Ottawa.

It's definitely OK to prefer Landeskog over the others, but it has to be for everything he brings to the table versus everything the other three bring to the table.

wprager wrote:Karlsson looked like the fastest skater last year and I've said a number of times how he'd slowed down this year. He needs to trim his mane a bit to cut down on the air resistance, and start working out for real. I think he took a bit of a sideways step this year.

The demands this team has put on him are ridiculous, though. He started this season incredibly strongly, but it's not his fault he's on the most dysfunctional team in the league. I was looking at the stat sheet from a game I'd missed recently and he was at 32 minutes or something.

Also, what BD said.

asq2 wrote:

Also, what BD said.

Scratching me head

I'd definitely hold a year or two before dealing a defenceman if we took Larsson, so there's not much point conjecturing which one we'd part with because the picture would be much clearer then, IMO.

If we suck for the next couple of seasons, which may happen, there are forwards like Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Grigorenko, Marcantuoni etc. next year (though 2012's mostly about d-men) and guys like Nathan MacKinnon and (I think) Alex Forsberg the year after.

I'd also assume that we'd draft forwards with our next few picks, including Nashville's first.

Wiercioch is also not getting the love he should this season. It's been a difficult transition but he's still got awesome long-term potential.

TheAvatar wrote:

asq2 wrote:

Also, what BD said.

Scratching me head

Fifth from top.

Good point. I'm still working on getting used to the concept of sucking for many years ...

asq2 wrote:

TheAvatar wrote:

asq2 wrote:

Also, what BD said.

Scratching me head

Fifth from top.

LOL went through in my head a list of beat writer names, GM, Assistant-GM's trying to figure out who you meant ... ahah

asq2 wrote:

CockRoche wrote:And Landeskog is who I think the Sens need the most; based on his leadership qualities alone.

Jason Smith is an awesome leader. Still was very mediocre in Ottawa.

It's definitely OK to prefer Landeskog over the others, but it has to be for everything he brings to the table versus everything the other three bring to the table.

I was trying to get a point across that I think the Sens could use his style of leadership. On and off the ice.

I admit, I didn't work that well. Landeskog is the forward I like either way.

TheAvatar wrote:Good point. I'm still working on getting used to the concept of sucking for many years ...

Well part of me hopes it doesn't happen, but there aren't many FAs to choose from and we'd have little support coming offensively in the immediate future if we took Larsson (especially with Silfverberg staying in Sweden another year). Add a very inexperienced D-group - featuring Karlsson, Larsson, Cowen, Rundblad, and perhaps Lee and eventually Gryba and Wiercioch - and it doesn't spell President's Trophy contender. A change in coaching and a more stable goaltending situation would make us better, though.

On the bright side, there's more than just Yakupov to look forward to. Here are a couple goals by his team-mate, who is a centre but quite Hossa-esque.





And here's 2013 Nova Scotian prospect Nathan MacKinnon:

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CockRoche wrote:

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Oglethorpe wrote:I want Larsson or Couturier. All 4 have now been listed in the last few posts.

That is the beauty of picking in the top 4; you really can't get a bad pick. No superstars, but teams should get someone who contributes sooner or later.

I like Larsson because I think he could be the superstar of the gourp. I like Couturier more than RNH because of his size. People aren't that impressed with Couturier's numbers, but the Q has changed from a high-flying league to a tight defensive league (merci Guy Boucher), so his numbers are somewhat misleading.

Oops. I didn't read your original post properly.

I thought we were having a forward prospect discussion so I didn't even see that you snuck Larsson into the discussion. For some reason I read RNH instead of Larsson. Of course, the Dman is my favorite and Murray would be showing a lot of commitment to defence if he picked him over any of the three forwards.

Yeah, I think he picks Larsson then trades one of our young d-man to get a forward.

Pretty genius move if you ask me.

This. If he's able to turn Rundblad into a quality, blue-chip forward prospect, I'll be pretty pumped (even though I'd love to see what DR can do in Ottawa). If Murray pulls it off, it'll be like he upgraded the original FRP twice.

asq2 wrote:I'd definitely hold a year or two before dealing a defenceman if we took Larsson, so there's not much point conjecturing which one we'd part with because the picture would be much clearer then, IMO.

If we suck for the next couple of seasons, which may happen, there are forwards like Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Grigorenko, Marcantuoni etc. next year (though 2012's mostly about d-men) and guys like Nathan MacKinnon and (I think) Alex Forsberg the year after.

I'd also assume that we'd draft forwards with our next few picks, including Nashville's first.

Wiercioch is also not getting the love he should this season. It's been a difficult transition but he's still got awesome long-term potential.

He definitely seems like more of a project. It sounds like he'll take a couple extra years to develop. That's fine. I like the idea of staggering the rookie D-men anyway. Take all the time you need, Patrick.

Sens Skills tidbit:

Karlsson set the record with a time of 13.7 beating Vermette's old time (Sorry don't remember it).

But even more surprising was Colin Greening beat that newly minted record with a time of 13.665.

Greening also had a shot over 100 MPH in the hardest shot contest losing out to Matt Carkner.

http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=553672&navid=DL|OTT|home

Update on Winchester...sort of. I was at the Sens Skill competition in case you hadn't guessed that already and they had Winchester enter the competition during the Shoot out elimination round. Not sure if that means much other than he's at least skating and able to take a shot. Also I don't know if they'd put him in that if he wasn't at least close to ready right?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Sens Skills tidbit:

Karlsson set the record with a time of 13.7 beating Vermette's old time (Sorry don't remember it).

But even more surprising was Colin Greening beat that newly minted record with a time of 13.665.

Greening also had a shot over 100 MPH in the hardest shot contest losing out to Matt Carkner.

http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=553672&navid=DL|OTT|home

Big dude who skates fast AND has a hard shot. Me likey.

I want to see more of this guy. No more Shannon & Lessard linemates, either. If Regin's out, put Greening with Foligno & Kovalev for a period or two, & let's see what he can do.